Post by kooratz on Sept 13, 2019 18:30:42 GMT -5
How do you Slavs from everywhere & anywhere , who took DNA tests from the big testing entities like 23 & me or Ancestry.com, stack up genetically? I took the test & the first result had me part Brit at a ridiculous rate of almost 1/4, no one in my family had any knowledge of any Brit blood! It was revised about 2 years after the initial test, to be about 85% + , ( with Brit blood taken off the table) From Russia & Eastern Europe. I knew that my mom's side was from Central to Northern , what was the & now considered Croatia & near Slovenia, under the AHE .I also recently found out my Maternal GF , who was from that area, spoke Russian (don't know which dialect) as well as a Serbo-Croatian dialect, which I know the latter was his native tongue. My 90 + year old uncle told me my GF , often conversed in Russian , with Russian immigrants that came to the US in the 1920 or earlier, as far back as he could remember. I was told he came to the US , at the age of 12 years old , by himself , at the turn of the 19th century! To WORK! No welfare handouts to European immigrants back then, unlike to the Amerindians & non whites who come here now ,legally or illegally, who consume welfare at a rate well over 50% of them! They get free everything here too, licenses for driving, they go to state supported hospitals for all their healthcare. Nothing like that was available to Slavic or European immigrants who came here during the " Golden Years" of immigration to this nation, or even in the 1950s to the 1980s period. They came here to WORK, & this nation worked them to death!
Since my uncle , who was born in the US , knew the Serbo-Croatian language fluently, partly because he went to school to learn it & knew it through his mom & dad who were from roughly the same areas , in what was then Croatia (they were born in the late 1800s or my GM in the very early 20th century), in areas ruled by the AHE, back then. He said through his knowledge of kids that were Russians, who lived in his area , who still of course spoke their parents native tongue in America, even if they were born here, he knew what language it was. I thought he may have mistaken Russian for a Serbian dialect ,like one from Banat, but he definitely knew it was Russian.
On my dad's side, they were from the Croatian coast, as far as recent memories account, near Split & some from near Knin , but as with my Maternal side , you could never get away calling them Croatians. They were Orthodox Christians very devoutly. With their Eastern Slavic sounding & not a typical South Slavic surname , I suspected this side of the family came somewhere from the East , since the Surname was a very common one in especially Belarus & even somewhat in Russia. My uncle on that side , he still was in Yugo & after the 90s wars there, & he lived in the very northern most parts of Serbia, & he told us , after researching the family tree that some parts of our family might have lived in either Russia or the Ukraine at some period in time & might have immigrated to Serbia , during the many Serb uprisings & wars with the Ottoman Empire bastards. For this reason , I guess I was surprised, or not surprised in a way, I came out only around 10 % of "Balkan" genetics. Balkan genes , by the testers , explained as Central & Southern Serbia, Bulgaria,Macedonia & Greece. Kind of strangely , I know a guy with as far as he knows , is of mostly Czech heritage, living here in the US , said he came out with 40% of Balkan genetics , & he took the same test I did. He said as far as he knew , his family came from Slovakia or the Czech areas of Europe . I guess people were very mobile in the past too?
The results , for me, were specifically, a little from Bosnia, from Russia, & Croatia, & generally Eastern Europe, to add up to over 80%, of my genetics. Then minor parts , 3% from Caucasus & Turkey, 3% Baltic, & a very little from Italy. My guess is pretty much mostly Slavic, either of the two most Common Slavic haplotypes , R1A or I2A.
An interesting side note, is that modern Turks in Turkey , come out genetically with a lot of Greek, Italic, & then generally a significant part ancient of indigenous people of Anatolia , Persian, & a good part Caucasus people's genetics, & many being even a good part Slavic.Then minor genetic influences from Arabic & Kurdish, with very little Western Asian oriental genetics, usually less than 5% in contemporary Western Turks, & usually < 10% in Eastern Turkish turds. Istanbul Turks have the greatest European type genetics. So , real Turks from Asia , added next to no genes to the Balkan Slavs , like Bulgarians , Macedonians, Southern Serbs or Croatians, or even Greeks & probably not much to Albanians too. .
Since my uncle , who was born in the US , knew the Serbo-Croatian language fluently, partly because he went to school to learn it & knew it through his mom & dad who were from roughly the same areas , in what was then Croatia (they were born in the late 1800s or my GM in the very early 20th century), in areas ruled by the AHE, back then. He said through his knowledge of kids that were Russians, who lived in his area , who still of course spoke their parents native tongue in America, even if they were born here, he knew what language it was. I thought he may have mistaken Russian for a Serbian dialect ,like one from Banat, but he definitely knew it was Russian.
On my dad's side, they were from the Croatian coast, as far as recent memories account, near Split & some from near Knin , but as with my Maternal side , you could never get away calling them Croatians. They were Orthodox Christians very devoutly. With their Eastern Slavic sounding & not a typical South Slavic surname , I suspected this side of the family came somewhere from the East , since the Surname was a very common one in especially Belarus & even somewhat in Russia. My uncle on that side , he still was in Yugo & after the 90s wars there, & he lived in the very northern most parts of Serbia, & he told us , after researching the family tree that some parts of our family might have lived in either Russia or the Ukraine at some period in time & might have immigrated to Serbia , during the many Serb uprisings & wars with the Ottoman Empire bastards. For this reason , I guess I was surprised, or not surprised in a way, I came out only around 10 % of "Balkan" genetics. Balkan genes , by the testers , explained as Central & Southern Serbia, Bulgaria,Macedonia & Greece. Kind of strangely , I know a guy with as far as he knows , is of mostly Czech heritage, living here in the US , said he came out with 40% of Balkan genetics , & he took the same test I did. He said as far as he knew , his family came from Slovakia or the Czech areas of Europe . I guess people were very mobile in the past too?
The results , for me, were specifically, a little from Bosnia, from Russia, & Croatia, & generally Eastern Europe, to add up to over 80%, of my genetics. Then minor parts , 3% from Caucasus & Turkey, 3% Baltic, & a very little from Italy. My guess is pretty much mostly Slavic, either of the two most Common Slavic haplotypes , R1A or I2A.
An interesting side note, is that modern Turks in Turkey , come out genetically with a lot of Greek, Italic, & then generally a significant part ancient of indigenous people of Anatolia , Persian, & a good part Caucasus people's genetics, & many being even a good part Slavic.Then minor genetic influences from Arabic & Kurdish, with very little Western Asian oriental genetics, usually less than 5% in contemporary Western Turks, & usually < 10% in Eastern Turkish turds. Istanbul Turks have the greatest European type genetics. So , real Turks from Asia , added next to no genes to the Balkan Slavs , like Bulgarians , Macedonians, Southern Serbs or Croatians, or even Greeks & probably not much to Albanians too. .
