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Post by Raven on May 18, 2006 8:17:23 GMT -5
Look at the source of this information about Czechs. It is BETA and that is very pro- `false Western` agency/source. Key source to B92, too.
I don’t say that BETA wouldn`t present correct information (I using them sometimes as source, too) but, on the end- what is correct.
For BETA- ``correct`` is what is pro- `false West`. ``Correct`` is that Serbs aren’t popular. ``Correct`` is that Czechs are pro- USA, pro- Semitic and pro- German oriented, etc.
One digression in case with mass media in Serbia and Serbian citizens.
In time of Slobodan Milosevic Serbia had few types of media: pro- Milosevic, pro- political opposition, pro- nationalist Serbia, pro- Pan Slavic, pro- `false West`, pro- royal Serbia, pro- USA, pro- German, pro- EU, pro- Serbian Diaspora, etc, etc…
In the same time Serbian citizens were of few types (if you understand me).
Today, few years after Slobodan Milosevic was dispatched to Hague (where was killed), things are different in Serbia.
There are only (in majority) pro- `false West` media survived (even Belgrade POLITIKA and Novi Sad DNEVNIK are in hands of `false West`- German Bodo Hombah is owner now and, old ``evil`` RTS isn’t ``that ``evil`` for THEM).
Serbian citizens also aren’t that what they were in time of Milosevic.
From day to day, there are more and more Serbian citizens who are pro- Pan Slavic and anti- EU/NATO oriented.
Seams that Serbian citizens aren’t as Serbian media scene (at least for now).
Seams that `false West` miscalculate.
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Post by Яромip on May 20, 2006 16:40:10 GMT -5
Let me see if I comprehend this correctly. You hate people with whom you share same Genetic profile because they had to contend with situations which were much less favorable than what we historically had in Ukraine and Russia. You really think that is justified?
Czechs are the best Slavic engineers and mere fact of their existance as distinct kind speaks of will, determination and love of their motherland under constant German pressure.
That they are falling for neo-liberal propaganda is not suprising nor is it any different from modern Ukraine. How many people fell for the neo-liberal Orange Revolution?
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Post by Raven on May 21, 2006 4:37:56 GMT -5
Yaromir is right. After all German pressure Czechs are still Slavs. That means something! In WWI many Czechs and Slovaks escape from Austro-Hungarian army to come in Serbian army and to fight side by side with Serbs against common oppressor. It wasn’t just few cases and examples, my brothers. Those were whole regiments. Yes, Czechs are good brothers, good Slavs- no matter all. Media pressure from false West is enormous. If we even see some deformation inside of Slavic body we must be honest and say that our enemies are well organized and Slavs are divided. What other Slavs offer to Czechs to support them? What we done for Poland? What Serbia really got? Did somebody say something to Croatia in case with their German path (I don’t mean on critics but on wise words which needs to open their eyes)? What Russia got, except criticism? We all, first have to give and than to receive. That will save us. WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH OUR CIVILIZATION  !!! |
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Post by Boleslaw on May 22, 2006 19:42:09 GMT -5
I dont find it harsh. Czechs have never been a people Ive held in high regard. Does that mean I have a pathological hatred for all Czechs? No. I dont know if Czechs share the same genetic profile as Ukrainians or anyother Slavic nation for that matter, and if so that is irrelevant. Czechs have a real attitude problem towards other Slavs, especially Ukrainians. Here's even an article about how Czechs look down upon Ukrainians www.ukraine-observer.com/articles/199/453Yet this is only covering modern times. At the beginning of the 20th century, in many Pan-Slavic/Neo-Slavic circles the Czechs were often the ones trying to discredit the Ukrainian national cause; even declaring us anti-Slavic. And Ive even read about how the Czechs even tried to suppress Slovak attempts at expressing their sense of nationality. Considering the fact that I have great admiration for the Slovaks, this is something I cannot accept. Plus many of the Czechs Ive known personally have been complete jerks. So no, there's not much reason for me to like Czechs. |
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Post by Moravan Rostislav on May 23, 2006 7:12:27 GMT -5
I live in Czech Republic, but I'm a Moravian, I don't like Czechs, especially Czechs from Prague, they are pretty arrogant and different like normal Slovans. They discriminate all Moravians and all Silesians, we wish to have your own autonomy, autonomy like Vojvodina, Krym, Republika Srpska or Kaliningrad area!  |
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Post by Gerasim on May 23, 2006 10:03:34 GMT -5
How many Moravians are there in Czech republic? What problems do you have with Czechs?
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Post by Moravan Rostislav on May 23, 2006 16:44:06 GMT -5
How many Moravians are there in Czech republic? What problems do you have with Czechs? Click here to see more infos about Moravia and Silesia. |
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Post by Danik on May 23, 2006 16:47:55 GMT -5
I live in Czech Republic, but I'm a Moravian, I don't like Czechs, especially Czechs from Prague, they are pretty arrogant and different like normal Slovans. They discriminate all Moravians and all Silesians, we wish to have your own autonomy, autonomy like Vojvodina, Krym, Republika Srpska or Kaliningrad area! I once though that Ostrava is an ethnically Polish area which fell under Czech rule to appease the Czech government after 1918, in exchange for other areas of Silesia. Oh yes and since when are Silesians not Poles? For you everybody is poles :-) |
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Post by Moravan Rostislav on May 23, 2006 17:04:40 GMT -5
I once though that Ostrava is an ethnically Polish area which fell under Czech rule to appease the Czech government after 1918, in exchange for other areas of Silesia. Oh yes and since when are Silesians not Poles?[/quote] At first: I don't know much about Silesian history, I only know, they once had an autonomy and then they was separated to two areas: Czech part and Polish part. I think they deserved fully autonomy as though Slovans from Luzice (in Germany). All Slovans nations should have your own are, like Bavarians and Saxons in Germany or Scottish and Welsh people in Great Britain etc. But Czech government doesn't respects land borderlines of Moravia and Silesia, actually they separated all Czech Republic into 14 districts without respect on segmentation of old borderlines. And Moravia might deserve your own autonomy, because we are an oldest Slovan nation (remember Great Moravia?). ...and sorry for my bad english, I rather speak moravian.  |
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Post by Moravan Rostislav on May 23, 2006 17:12:19 GMT -5
In fact that's true, all people in northern Moravia and in all Silesia understand to polish language.
(And me too, because I live in Ostrava - city in which all people understand to polish language and which is separate on two parts: Moravian Ostrava ans Silesian Ostrava).
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Post by Utobach on May 23, 2006 21:38:49 GMT -5
Do NOT listen to anything this "Moravan Rostislav" imperialist says! I am from Brno and I know all these Moravians oppress us and destroy us!! The Ostravans are backwards and have dragged down Brnoians for centuries. The Moravians always have been the enemy of noble Brno! FREE BRNO FROM THE MORAVIAN AND OSTRAVAN YOKE!!!! LONG LIVE INDEPEDENT BRNO AND THE BRNOIAN LANGUAGE!!!
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Post by Danik on May 24, 2006 15:09:46 GMT -5
How does Brnoian, Moravian language sound like? Czech?
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Post by White Cossack on May 24, 2006 20:39:10 GMT -5
How does Brnoian, Moravian language sound like? Czech? Brnoian is not a real language. It is an attempt at satire by utobach. It's funnier and more successful then any you have tried yourself so far. |
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Post by trpimir on May 25, 2006 15:40:53 GMT -5
Free Moravia  Like the colors on the banner... ;D |
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Post by srbin on May 25, 2006 15:46:48 GMT -5
not a big fan of the sahovnica ustasi liked it too much.
[img src="http://picsorban.com/upload/pavelic-salute2[1].jpg"]
[img src="http://picsorban.com/upload/tudjman-u-symbols[1].jpg"]
The oldest source confirming the coat as an official symbol is a genealogy of the Habsburgs, dated from 1512 to 1518. In 1525 it was used on a votive medal. making it austrian not slavic
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