Kuboslav
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Post by Kuboslav on Sept 6, 2007 16:02:54 GMT -5
I tell you about history! If you say in this way to me, you should say the same to all Serbs, Bosniaks, Croats, Macedonians and Bulgarians about Turks! "Born before 30 years talking about 100 years old events like they personally experienced them!"... Every of us have grandfathers, who also had them and heard many things, was raised in specifical type of culture wich has her own likes and dislikes, her own history, pains and triumphs... And you're trying to simplify it... I don't even want to know, why do you behave in that way... But, undeniably, it's regrettable... And your question to me... I didn't hear about it, but it has to be some kind of provocation... Pidzuski´s brother was connected to brother of V. I. Iljanov Another proof he was just a tool On November 8, 1918, Piłsudski and his comrade, Colonel Kazimierz Sosnkowski, were released from Magdeburg and soon — like Vladimir Lenin before them — placed on a private train, bound for their national capital, as the increasingly desperate Germans hoped that Piłsudski would gather forces friendly to them.And this is real face of his "anti-bolsheviksm" He also considered Bolsheviks as less dangerous for Poland than their Russian-civil-war contenders, as the White Russians - representative of the old Russian Empire, partitioner of Poland - were not willing to accept Poland's independenceHope dies last... German HOPED! They didn't give an order or something similar... Why don't you write what happened when Pilsudski with Sosnkowski (another hero) returned to Warsaw? He did, what German wanted? I don't think so! LESS DANGEROUS doesn't mean FRIENDLY or somethin similar... Man, your neurotic or something?! Don't you understand meaning of simple words? His connections with bolsheviks converge maybe on personal history - he played with polish socialists to give freedom to polish men! With communists he would never agree, cause they rejected the notion of nation, state etc. He didn't have imperialistic inclinations - he wanted to create Slavic Federation with Ukrainians, Belarussians and Lithuanians! Why I have to repeat myself? He fought with part of Ukrainians, but they (Ukrainians) are divided even today... He supported Petlura against Russian, Red and White as well!!! He wasn't a nationalist like Dmowski! Dmowski was fearful antisemithic polithic... Pilsudski was brave and warlike leader of those, who knew what Poland was and what should be! I see that i won't convince you and you won't convince me... I don't insult your national heroes, so I ask you: Don't do that! I know, that he contributed to destroying your dreams about imperial Russia, but he also weakened bolsheviks! All Poles cried in 1935, when he died, we had even National Bereavement after that... Don't tell such things like "scum" about him... it's undeserved... |
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jarek
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Post by jarek on Sept 6, 2007 16:03:07 GMT -5
Poll Question: Which slavic leader would you choose as a leader if they were running for office?Peter the Great Vladimir Lenin Josef Broz Tito Catherine the Great Vojislav Kostunica Nikita Khruschev Vladimir Putin Answer: No one of them! All of them are in on their own way critical (or murderers) or weak or incompetent or still to new. Beside that some of those persons are still history and and it doesn't make a sense to speculate about a possible leadership in present times. (You can't transplant them into present times). The only one I personally like is perhaps "Nikita Khruschev", because he was a good simple man who just wanted a good life for all people, quite idealistic, a true communist. Unfortunately he was also an idiot,  who took out his shoe at the UN summit and beat against the table, while the whole world was laughing. And about Putin: history will show who he really is, cause he still didn't tell us and will probably never do.
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Post by Volkov on Sept 6, 2007 19:38:11 GMT -5
Ej guys we are choicing future leader so leave the past at least in this topic and put some from our times. And don't say anything bad about Vladimir Lenin becouse he gave food to a common people when they were starving to death
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Post by White Cossack on Sept 6, 2007 21:54:10 GMT -5
Ej guys we are choicing future leader so leave the past at least in this topic and put some from our times. And don't say anything bad about Vladimir Lenin becouse he gave food to a common people when they were starving to death You are an idiot. |
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Post by White Cossack on Sept 6, 2007 21:59:04 GMT -5
Kuboslav,
Ok, I won't be furthering discussing Pilsudski with you. We won't ever meet in the eye in this particular issue, which is not the end of the world.
But let me comment on this, why is it that Polish hunger for Ukrainian lands is always disguised as "Slavic federation" or such BS, and Russian "imperialism" is regarded as the worst thing ever? I can't understand how Polish people are so hipocrite when it comes to mutual attacks and our past History of common bad blood. Ask Ukrainians if they want to be part of Poland...
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Post by Lonevolk on Sept 7, 2007 3:24:10 GMT -5
None of the list. But it's hard to pick a pan-slavic leader because every nation has their favourites which are unacceptable to others. For Russia my choice would be Aleksandar Nevski For Serbia I would choose Car Dusan Silni For the other nations I can't really comment as I don't have enough knowledge.....maybe Jan Sobiewski for Poland? Look with all due respect no great leader can be a chome dome or fatass. It makes them WAY too self conscious to make effective policy decisions. Nikita was both a cue ball and lardass. Hahaha ;D.....staright to the point! |
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Post by Volkov on Sept 7, 2007 4:56:06 GMT -5
Brainwashed by whom? American neocon media? And if you think the red danger is over, than I feel sorry for you, because you will be easily taken by their propaganda, sooner or later. So, what is the increasingly colectivization of Europe? What are people like Moore and Chomsky doing out there? Leftist ideologies are not a static thing, they evolve, and revolutionares use different tactics of domination. wake up man then write. |
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Post by Яромip on Sept 7, 2007 13:24:40 GMT -5
Pilsudski had jewish wife. That says loud and clear whom he was working for.
The list is rather strange, especially including Lenin who was German-Jew by his mother and Kalmyk-Russian by his father, which would make him 25% Slavic or less.
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Kuboslav
Praporshchik
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Post by Kuboslav on Sept 7, 2007 15:50:31 GMT -5
Noch ein Wort! Sie können nur klatschen...
Don't say these things! Denikin had jewish aunt! It's the same! I understand anthisemicism, but don't understand making a jew every enemy, especcially, when your enemy is Slav! But on the other hand you can say, that all Poland is a jewish land, i don't care about this bullshit! You lost with him and search something, what can make him worse than he really was! Make it on forum of Russian Imperialists, Communists and rest, who was defeated by him! Not on forum of Slavic Nationalist... Maybe I am a young member, but I don't care, when you make such terrible things! I can't stand it!
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Post by stefan on Sept 7, 2007 15:59:39 GMT -5
wtf is TIto doing on the list criminal no 2 after Lenin and he even has points......... some dumb people we have here.
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slavianin
Starshiy Praporshchik
Mother Russia
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Post by slavianin on Sept 7, 2007 21:23:09 GMT -5
None of the list. But it's hard to pick a pan-slavic leader because every nation has their favourites which are unacceptable to others. For Russia my choice would be Aleksandar Nevski For Serbia I would choose Car Dusan Silni For the other nations I can't really comment as I don't have enough knowledge.....maybe Jan Sobiewski for Poland? Nevski would be my choice as well  |
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Post by Alexandrus on Sept 8, 2007 0:45:47 GMT -5
Jesus ;D ? lol kidding, well I'd have to say that even though i admire some of the people on the list, i don't believe that they'd be fit to rule such a gigantic Empire/Federation.
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jarek
Starshiy Praporshchik
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Post by jarek on Sept 8, 2007 2:15:06 GMT -5
Are you sure Jesus was a slav? If not, we can't let him rule Slavija.  |
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Post by Volkov on Sept 8, 2007 19:33:21 GMT -5
choose me!!! I will be good leader I promise |
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Post by Tsar Simeon on Sept 10, 2007 16:32:34 GMT -5
Half of the people on this list are dead.
Chose me ... i will conquer the world with the power of the slavic race ;D
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who took out his shoe at the UN summit and beat against the table, while the whole world was laughing. And about Putin: history will show who he really is, cause he still didn't tell us and will probably never do. 
