Srbopol
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Post by Srbopol on Jan 8, 2008 7:53:55 GMT -5
I can not to accept that Serbs are to blame for all that has happen to them, to exclude the fact of any outer Balkans interference is very foolish..... However i do agree Serbian policy should change slightly, Srbija needs to look at heading for economic success now to build forces and and allies then head to the war path to take land and repocess what is theres..... Like the people of Russia when the red revolution forst came it coems to nievity, people thought the communist idea wasnt so bad as it was and didnt know was some jewish run conspiracy, same as the Tito socialism, it was nieve to think it would ever last and neve to think christian should like muslims and live next to each other, all the tito area was, was just a time of nievity and some rest from the wat was comming up no matter what, another Balkan war
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Post by slavfighter91 on Jan 30, 2008 11:10:09 GMT -5
um before talking long talks about hitmen, organisations and other stuff i should remind everyone here that the government watches also this forum and we should be very careful what we post here
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Post by dmitarzvonimir on Jan 31, 2008 4:22:23 GMT -5
I can not to accept that Serbs are to blame for all that has happen to them, to exclude the fact of any outer Balkans interference is very foolish..... However i do agree Serbian policy should change slightly, needs to look at heading for economic success now to build forces and and allies then head to the war path to take land and what is theres..... Like the people of Russia when the red revolution came it to , people thought the communist idea so bad as it was and know was some run conspiracy, same as the Tito socialism, it was to think it would ever last and to think should like and live next to each other, all the area was, was just a time of and some rest from the was up no matter what, another Balkan war prijatelju, i hope you don´t really believe that we (the croats) have to give you something back. in the case of bosnia and kosovo i can understand your frustration because the european criminals want to steal not only your land but your whole identity with their sanctions and wars against you. i wish we could together divided bosnia in two parts. you have to start being more , especially with your slavic neighbours and we (both we and you too) need to be not so chauvinistic in future. we could start probably a smaller movement or something. here are some good people in the forum |
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Post by vjacheslav on Jan 31, 2008 5:28:04 GMT -5
Povcanin
We have to understand that the problem of every Slav nation
is a common problem of superior-ethnicity of Slavs. Only such
mentality will help us to unite.
Besides, Kosovo is not just politics, but ethnical invasion.
When I said to one Albanian straight on that I support Serbs
and only Serbs he said that respects me, cause this is naturally and added that would be surprised if I said in different way.
We are all one superior-ethnicity of Slavs, and we have much common Slav problems: Kosovo, Pridnestrovie, Slav-diaspora in Baltic countries, Crimean tatars etc.
srbobran
Sometimes I visit one Armenian forum. So Armenians and Russians from this forum thought out two large ways of deciding the situation around Kosovo:
1. To lose Kosovo, cause it is full of non-serbs but to obtain
instead of this Republica Srpska. It is not too clever way, cause who
would have such authorities in Europe to trade with terrirtories?
2. To populate the north part of Kosovo by serbs from other parts of Kosovo
and annex this north part, to deport Alb-s from Preshevo and let it be
sovereign Kosovo.
Such things Armenians say.
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Post by vjacheslav on Jan 31, 2008 5:40:28 GMT -5
As for this topic. I agree with author that scribble is not deciding of questions. I think that we must 1. Observe if there already existed Slav organizations For example, I've read this link about The Slav Party of Ukraine. I've found (at the end of this article) an information about a certain ''ìåæäóíàðîäíûé Âñåñëàâÿíñêèé Ñîáîð'' www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Embassy/4143/HISTORI.htmlwww.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Embassy/4143/ETAPI.html"Ïðàêòè÷åñêè âî âñåõ ñòðàíàõ âîçðîäèëèñü è äåéñòâóþò ñëàâÿíñêèå îðãàíèçàöèè.  Áåëîðóññèè ýòî Ñëàâÿíñêèé ñîáîð "Áåëàÿ Ðóñü, â Áîëãàðèè ôîíä "Ñëàâÿíå", ó ëóæè÷àí îáùåñòâî "Äîìîâèíà", â Ïîëüøå "Ïîëüñêèé íàðîäíûé ñîþç", â Ñëîâàêèè - Îáùåñòâî ñëàâÿíñêîé âçàèìíîñòè, â Ñëîâåíèè îáùåñòâî "Òðèãëàâ", íà Óêðàèíå - Ñëàâÿíñêàÿ ïàðòèÿ, â ×åõèè - Ñëàâÿíñêàÿ óíèÿ, â Þãîñëàâèè - îáùåñòâî "Ñâåñëàâ". Âñå îíè âõîäÿò â Ìåæäóíàðîäíûé ñîþç "Âñåñëàâÿíñêèé ñîáîð", êîòîðûé íà ìåæäóíàðîäíîé êîíôåðåíöèè, ïîñâÿùåííîé 50-ëåòèþ Áåëãðàäñêîãî ñëàâÿíñêîãî êîíãðåññà, ñòàë ïðàâîïðååìíèêîì Îáùåñëàâÿíñêîãî êîìèòåòà. " This Sobor is presented in every Slav country, but I do not think it really solves global Slav problems. |
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Post by vjacheslav on Jan 31, 2008 5:54:03 GMT -5
2. The members of this forum from the same country must connect with each other.
For example, members from Ukraine, if there are any - I wait for your letters))
3. On this stage these members have to organize in there countries communities. Not the Communs like communists had))) But
opŠtina (srpsk.), îáùèíà(rus), ãðîìàäà (ukr.) etc.
I think evereyone understood me. These communities are traditional for Slavs for all our early history so it is natural for us.
For example, there are problems with Caucasians in Russia, cause Russians do not solve them with all the crowd. If there were Russian communities in all the cities of Federation - they would kick Caucasians and not only them)))
4. The last stage is to get contact with the same community from other Slav countries. It is not a big problem. This forum may help with it)))
This is an approximate model:)
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Post by vjacheslav on Jan 31, 2008 6:00:17 GMT -5
If the national Slav party is fake in providing the Slav-unity ideas (for example I think the same about the Slav party of Ukraine), the communities must register own Slav party in Ministry of Justice of their countries.
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Post by slavfighter91 on Apr 4, 2008 3:48:24 GMT -5
forget parties. Politics never change something for our sake but will exploit us. We must 1. find money source...2. Get militant and preove our worth for example now in kosovo and other places.Then more people might get interested and we could finance ourselves.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2008 9:25:39 GMT -5
In my opinion real Slavic Unity is only possible with people of mixed Slavic ancestry, to whom it's almost irelevant whether they are Serbs or Croats, Macedonians or Bulgars, Russians or Poles etc.
Slavic Nationalism makes only sense as Pan-Slavism, and the average visitor of this forum is simply a Nationalist of his own country, some more, some less chauvinist.
So I don't think it makes any sense to talk about organizing ourselves outside of the Internet.
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Post by pastir on Apr 4, 2008 22:17:57 GMT -5
Slavic Nationalism flows naturaly from Ethnic Czech/Slovak/Croat/Serb/Bulgarian/Russian nationalism.
Unfortunatley the point gets obscured when our politicaly immature countries style themselves by the example of western "nation-states" which impy a cult of the state (states have no relatives) instead of nothing but identification through ones people (it is obvious borders between some peoples are deeper and between some others are shallower) where the state is only a tool of the people not a goal and a deity in itself.
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Post by vjacheslav on Apr 5, 2008 7:42:00 GMT -5
slavfighter91, I did not say about party, instead of this I proposed communities, which was natural for Slavs.
pastir, I can add that Slav nationalists have to surrender a bit of their own national idea to become to consensus in our Slav discussion and reacheing common aims.
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Post by vjacheslav on Apr 5, 2008 8:01:35 GMT -5
In my opinion real Slavic Unity is only possible with people of mixed Slavic ancestry, to whom it's almost irelevant whether they are Serbs or Croats, Macedonians or Bulgars, Russians or Poles etc. Slavic Nationalism makes only sense as Pan-Slavism, and the average visitor of this forum is simply a Nationalist of his own country, some more, some less chauvinist. So I don't think it makes any sense to talk about organizing ourselves outside of the Internet. I prove you that I'm not Ukrainian nationalist. I identify myself Slav and stay for Slavija- Slavic confideration based on the equal rihths of every Slav. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2008 8:42:07 GMT -5
I prove you that I'm not Ukrainian nationalist. I identify myself Slav and stay for Slavija- Slavic confideration based on the equal rihths of every Slav. That's honourable vjacheslav, but you are also of mixed Slavic origin, aren't you? |
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Alek
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Mozecie mnie uwazac za prawoslawnego, Polak-Prawoslawny, Orthodox.
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Post by Alek on Apr 10, 2008 6:45:38 GMT -5
(...) confideration based on the equal rihths of every Slav. I cheer for that. |
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Post by vjacheslav on Apr 10, 2008 8:48:55 GMT -5
I prove you that I'm not Ukrainian nationalist. I identify myself Slav and stay for Slavija- Slavic confideration based on the equal rihths of every Slav. That's honourable vjacheslav, but you are also of mixed Slavic origin, aren't you? Yes, you are right, I'm of mixed Ukrainian, Russian and Polish origin. May be this factor is determinative in my perception of this issue - I'm really totally tolerant to all the Slavs, except Bosnian muslims (but to my opinion they are better than for example Turks) |
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