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Post by BMPO KOMuTA on Apr 16, 2007 2:21:05 GMT -5
Did any of you ever hear of the Battle of Varna?1444? I ask because I think it links Poland and Serbian interests, however it's a pretty tragic battle... I'm bulgarian from Varna!!! I live only 700 metres from the battlefield. There is one beautiful park there and a historical museum! I often go there to honour the sacrifice of the slavic brothers. And now about the battle. The christian troops were commanded by the polish young king Vladislav Yagello (called later Varnenchik) and the famous Transilvanian voevode Yanosh Huniadi. The turks were commanded by sultan Murad II leading 10,000 elite janissary infantry, numerous horsemen, Crimean Tatars, Cherkez, Anadola infantry and Akundjii. The turks outnumbered the christian heavily. In the morning of 10 November 1444 the 2 armies began making battle formations. The christian army came from the Varna fortress from east (they arrived first) and the turks marched from west. Vladislav had only 2 choices - to win or to die, because behind his back was only the Black sea - no way to retreat and save his life!!! The allied generals were desperate - in front of them they saw endless sea of fanatic muslims, determined to die with honour in front of their sultan. Some of the bishops offered to make a defensive battle line behind the Vagenburg (armoured carts, binded together with chains - insurmountable mobile fortress). But Yanosh Huniadi was an experienced leader - he knew that only one brave frontal attack will bring victory. The turks prepared for battle. In front of the battle lines a hodja emerged with the holy drum. The whole area was filled with thunderous noise and thousands soldiers shouting "Allah aqbar, Allah aqbar.....". This was a psychology war - they tried to scarry the christian soldiers, but with no success. The turks charged first and concentrated their attack on the righ flank of the crusaders. Seeing this, Yanosh countered and repulsed the attack, charging the left flank of the ottomans. He crushed it and returned back. Huniadi told the king that he will attack the right turkish flank and begged him not to make any hasty and foolish decisions. "After I crush the right flank, we will join forces and surround the centre" - Huniadi told king Yagello. Yanosh Huniadi charged the right flank. His attack was irresistable and soon some of the turkish battalions scattered. Seeing this, the young and impetuous king Vladislav Yagello (he was only 20 at that time) made the fatal error - he charged the ottoman centre composed by elite janissarIES (10,000) ONLY WITH HIS BODYGUARDS - 500 HEAVY KNIGHTS!!! 500 AGAINST 10,000!!! The king's charge was brave, but foolish. The turks praised Allah when they saw how the king himself charged with his small band. BUT THE KNIGHT'S ATTACK WAS IRRESISTABLE!!! 500 brave soldiers and their king cut to pieces the janissary formation and knocked in deeply to the sultan's pavilion. Murad was horrified and decided to flee. But the janissary gazi bei (general) told him: "Your majesty, do not be afraid - stay here and win for the glory of Allah!". Soon, the knights were surrounded by numerous fanatical janissaries. King Vladislav almost reached the place, where sultan Murad stood (a high thracian funeral hill) but then his horse slipped and he fell to the ground. One janissary - Hodja Kudur saw the helpless king and cut off his head. This was the turning point of the battle.  When the sodiers saw their king's head sticked on a pike, they began to flee. Yanosh Huniadi tried to organize a resistance, but the troops were demoralised. Only the brave czech hussits led by the famous hetman Cheika refused to leave the battlefield. They barricaded behind the Vagenburg and fought like lions and died all like HEROES!!! This is the story of the tragical battle at Varna 1444. ETERNAL GLORY TO ALL SLAVS, WHO DIED THERE FOR THE FREEDOM OF BULGARIA!!! WE WILL NEVER FORGET THEIR SACRIFICE!!! REST IN PEACE, BROTHERS!!! |
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Post by tenebrosus on Sept 10, 2007 12:05:08 GMT -5
winged husars picture is not good here ;P because first knowed iformation about wings are from about 100 years later  here is battle scene from "With Sword And Fire" (husars in action ) pl.youtube.com/watch?v=jgQ68OFNF8Yit was first and second Jagiello was a King of Poland and Great Prince of Lithuana (two tittles not one ) |
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Post by Srbopol on Sept 11, 2007 14:55:59 GMT -5
Those hussars seem to be pretty good, Polish kawalaria as a whole has rich history i think
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Post by tenebrosus on Sept 11, 2007 17:56:52 GMT -5
winged hussars was best cavalry in Europe from XVI to XVIII, they never loose 125 years from 1500 to 1625 i like this battle 4-VII-1610 | Kłuszyn | Polish army(hussars) 6800 (5550) | Russia ab.35000 here is more but only in polish lang ver ;/ www.husaria.jest.pl/ |
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Post by Srbopol on Sept 12, 2007 7:27:51 GMT -5
against Russia? fuk that shit man
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Post by tenebrosus on Sept 12, 2007 9:30:07 GMT -5
Russia was trying to destroy Lithuana, after Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth Poland wanted to help Lithuana take back her grounds, btw after this battle polish prince Wladyslaw IV Vasa was a tsar of Russia about 3 years(1610-1613)
history about wars CoBN with Russia is very long
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Post by Alexandrus on Sept 12, 2007 9:36:11 GMT -5
Russia was trying to destroy Lithuana, after Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth Poland wanted to help Lithuana take back her grounds, btw after this battle polish prince Wladyslaw IV Vasa was a tsar of Russia about 3 years(1610-1613) history about wars CoBN with Russia is very long Yeah but Poland still attacked first. |
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Post by Srbopol on Sept 12, 2007 9:41:31 GMT -5
forget wars between Russia and Poland, it dosnt need to happen anymore.....should align as cousins and not enemys.....the original post of grunwald thought was good, fuk those germans
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Post by tenebrosus on Sept 12, 2007 10:01:02 GMT -5
i cant forget history of my country, now inhabitants of Russia are not my enemies, but i dont like those postcommunist rule, communist and nazi always will be my enemy Russia was attack Lithuana first
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Post by Alexandrus on Sept 12, 2007 10:11:11 GMT -5
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Post by Srbopol on Sept 12, 2007 10:19:27 GMT -5
nazis and communism are enemys to us all, you know i was reading other day about some Poles who helped the white army fight in the Russian civil war against the bolsheviks but now i cant find it, was wuite good and would be good to be posted here, maybe you might be able to
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Post by tenebrosus on Sept 12, 2007 10:52:26 GMT -5
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Post by Srbopol on Sept 12, 2007 10:56:03 GMT -5
being in the Kgb was just wa way of getting up in the ladder of power man, half of the people never was communist, just the communist assholes seemed to be in charge and have all the cash.....i think sovietism has damaged relations betweens poles and Russians, lots of good Russians and Orthodoxy suffered from that shit just as i know poles did.....dont blame Russia now for that crap that wasnt to do with real Russians
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Post by tenebrosus on Sept 12, 2007 11:04:39 GMT -5
im not talking about normal inhabitants of Russia
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Post by Alexandrus on Sept 12, 2007 11:43:35 GMT -5
From your sourse, In the first series of wars in the 15th century the Lithuanians gained control of a lot of East Slavic territories, from Kiev to Mozhaisk, but over the course of the series of wars, particularly in the 16th century, the Muscovites were able to expand their domain westwards, taking control of much of the lands that were once part of Kievan Rus.Which means that Lithuania was the aggressor and took territories that were originally eastern slavic(Rus) and Russia simply re-conquered them. I don't know what kind of crap you listen to but Putin is far better then your Zionist-Bolshevist government, which sold itself out to America as soon as it got a chanse. Listen, I've seen members say the same things, that they dont have a problem with ''regular'' russians and later on make posts calling Russians mongolians and turks. |
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