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Post by Volkov on Sept 4, 2007 20:24:25 GMT -5
Well probably in close future the creation of the “Great Slavia” is not posible but some steps can be taken to inpruve that event. There are three major problems that have to be solved so we can become totaly united.
First and most important is the language. This new Slavio (www.Slavio.com) language must become gradually mother thong to all Slavic people, or at least official language in all Slavic countries. If it is procured all the studies to be listen on this language then it will become a living language.
Second is the religion. We have to become, how do I say, less catholics and orthodox and more Christians. The western powers use this as a bait to devide us and almost all the conflicts between the Slavs were on religious base.
And the third it will take a lot of money and a great campaign to convince the people that it is in their interests to create that union
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Post by Volkov on Sept 4, 2007 20:34:08 GMT -5
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Post by pitt1225 on Oct 12, 2007 2:43:45 GMT -5
You say that the biggest threat to slavs is godless neo communists. Well the way I recall the best time in Yugoslavias history was when Tito was there and declared it an atheist country. And the reason why there is so much fighting in the former Yugoslavia is because Croations are Catholic, Serbs, and Macedonians are Orthodox and people in Kosovo are Muslim. Take out the element of relegion and we have no reaosn to fight each other.
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Post by ljubos on Oct 12, 2007 7:34:15 GMT -5
You want to take out element that exisisted throughout centuries, survived countless political systems; people need something to believe in. Biggest problem of yugoslavia and tito (in my eyes) was that he kept saying that we are all the same, that yugoslavia is not south slavic country, selling Kosovo and... The main problem was not in religion.
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Post by pitt1225 on Oct 12, 2007 9:56:55 GMT -5
Tito made sure that we never forget that we are all the same and that we should not let something that has no scientific proof to be real keep us from being united.
You say that just because relegion has been around for a logn time we should not dispose of it. Ok then well what about war, that's always been with us should we also incourage war?
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Post by TheGoddess on Oct 12, 2007 10:02:20 GMT -5
You're probably just looking at the top of the iceberg and not what's really down there under the water.
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Post by ljubos on Oct 12, 2007 11:03:11 GMT -5
I am 101% atheist, but have respect towards orthodox and catholic religion. But I am trying to tell you, that people will not just say ok, we don't need religion... that is not something you buy in supermarket, most of countries are deply connected with religion. I just wanted to say that taking out religions is certainly utopia. Again war is not something you can take out, there will always be wars.
Tito saying we are all the same... yes albanians on Kosovo and gypsys have a lot in common with average Serb, Croat, Macedonian and Slovenian. I am not neonazi, but saying they are the same, is stupid. If you look at gypsys, % of them on social support is a lot higher then at any other (jugo)slav. Šiptari are the best not at sports, not at developing new technology, but guess where... in criminal. But hey that's the way it is and I am not the one to judge. But saying we are all the same... kurac smo.
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Post by pitt1225 on Oct 12, 2007 20:44:05 GMT -5
Albanians and gypsies are not the same as serbs, croats, and slovenians who are all the same.
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Post by stefan on Oct 13, 2007 8:34:14 GMT -5
i bet u are Serbian pitt1225?
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Post by slavfighter91 on Oct 13, 2007 8:51:51 GMT -5
Religion is important and your dream of a unity between serbia and croats is and stays only a dream. We cant just give up a basic part of our culture just to cease the fighting with the croats. Its not worth it.
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Post by Pravoslav on Oct 27, 2007 2:42:09 GMT -5
I cant understand why people are still deviding on small countries.Actually now all countries are formed on their national and etnich groups.Why we have so many small countries when all we now their are with slavic nationality  And there are still countries which are dividing,even now Kosovo is wanting independence, for me this is stupid,uniting is the strenth and they are deviding...stupid people.I think this is happening because of outside powers hwo want to make us small and weak. Albanians are not Slavs. They should've been destroyed in Kosovo in 1999 if Milosevic did his job correctly. Even in Macedonia, 2001 they caused trouble and almost destroyed our country by bringing it on the verge of civil war. |
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Post by volsebnica on Oct 27, 2007 3:18:25 GMT -5
I cant understand why people are still deviding on small countries.Actually now all countries are formed on their national and etnich groups.Why we have so many small countries when all we now their are with slavic nationality And there are still countries which are dividing,even now Kosovo is wanting independence, for me this is stupid,uniting is the strenth and they are deviding...stupid people.I think this is happening because of outside powers hwo want to make us small and weak. Albanians are not Slavs. They should've been destroyed in Kosovo in 1999 if Milosevic did his job correctly. Even in Macedonia, 2001 they caused trouble and almost destroyed our country by bringing it on the verge of civil war. Dear, don`t believe everything You read in western newspaper, Milosevic ( Serbs ) didn`t touch Shiptars on Kosovo i Methija. Not in 1999, not in 1998, 1990, or 1987. So, now ethnic cleansing attempt from our side. We`re no Nazis. |
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Post by Pravoslav on Oct 27, 2007 5:51:11 GMT -5
Albanians are not Slavs. They should've been destroyed in Kosovo in 1999 if Milosevic did his job correctly. Even in Macedonia, 2001 they caused trouble and almost destroyed our country by bringing it on the verge of civil war. Dear, don`t believe everything You read in western newspaper, Milosevic ( Serbs ) didn`t touch Shiptars on Kosovo i Methija. Not in 1999, not in 1998, 1990, or 1987. So, now ethnic cleansing attempt from our side. We`re no Nazis. You don't understand, i was not saying Serbs were in the wrong in Kosovo. Serbs were in the right! Kosovo is the soul of Serbia! There were no massacres of Shiptars. That's bullshit Clinton cooked up to dismember Yugoslavia. Watch this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lHyKv4IC3c"NATO palit, NATO ruzji, ama ne mozje da..." Explain that part of song to me and laugh along with me  I was saying Milosevic SHOULD have killed the Shiptars and the Macedonian border guards should have opened machine gun fire on these traitorous bastards who Macedonia gave safe haven in 1999 and then turned their insurgency on us. Please don't think i'm anti-Serb, if anything, the opposite. If there is another war and Serbia needs the support against NATO or the Bosniaks, this Macedonian be there in the frontline with his brother Serbs  We're the same- Yugoslavs. |
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Post by Srbopol on Oct 27, 2007 7:52:32 GMT -5
Pravoslavni zajedno.....toooooooo
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Post by volsebnica on Oct 28, 2007 6:46:10 GMT -5
Dear, don`t believe everything You read in western newspaper, Milosevic ( Serbs ) didn`t touch Shiptars on Kosovo i Methija. Not in 1999, not in 1998, 1990, or 1987. So, now ethnic cleansing attempt from our side. We`re no Nazis. You don't understand, i was not saying Serbs were in the wrong in Kosovo. Serbs were in the right! Kosovo is the soul of Serbia! There were no massacres of Shiptars. That's bullshit Clinton cooked up to dismember Yugoslavia. Watch this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lHyKv4IC3c"NATO palit, NATO ruzji, ama ne mozje da..." Explain that part of song to me and laugh along with me I was saying Milosevic SHOULD have killed the Shiptars and the Macedonian border guards should have opened machine gun fire on these traitorous bastards who Macedonia gave safe haven in 1999 and then turned their insurgency on us. Please don't think i'm anti-Serb, if anything, the opposite. If there is another war and Serbia needs the support against NATO or the Bosniaks, this Macedonian be there in the frontline with his brother Serbs We're the same- Yugoslavs. My mistake, please accept apologies. Now I`m relieved. Kind of, because I`m shocked by that U-tube video-it`s a PARODY to our Army`s tactics! But, I`m sure You though it was an epiphany to it. |
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And there are still countries which are dividing,even now Kosovo is wanting independence, for me this is stupid,uniting is the strenth and they are deviding...stupid people.I think this is happening because of outside powers hwo want to make us small and weak.
We're the same- Yugoslavs. 