Article of Interest: Why Nationalism?

[Boris Sarafov]

I will take my image of Ethnic Macedonia down, when the historical photos is either deleted, or revised, because Bulgarians spreading propaganda and claiming Macedonian Heroes and fighthers, as there own.

Other wise Lonevolk, ain't no way im changing my stuff.

But I will make my map a bit smaller.

[Tsar Simeon]

lonevolk said:

tsar said:

Lonevolk if anyone needs help that would be you. How does what i said have nothing to do with your post before that?

Funny u accuse me with spreading garbage to the forum, but u dont accuse ur fyromian compatriot when knowing the truth full well ur self. Then im the one who needs help.

I'm gonna try to explain this ONE MORE time:

1. No one is stopping you posting your version of events, but you can expect to be chalenged when others dissagree......what you see as the "truth" isn't accepted by others


2. I also have SERIOUS problems with some Macedonian claims but you don't see me starting multiple threads or ruining already existing ones

Precisley

I dont recall starting a single threat about macedonia, i know the arguments it can cause. But once the thread is started i cant help my self but post the truth in it.

And i dont intend to start a thread on fyrom.

[BMPO KOMuTA]

macedoniansoldier said:

I will take my image of Ethnic Macedonia down, when the historical photos is either deleted, or revised, because Bulgarians spreading propaganda and claiming Macedonian Heroes and fighthers, as there own.

Other wise Lonevolk, ain't no way im changing my stuff.

But I will make my map a bit smaller.

I have no problem with your signature. I don't feel offended, cuz we both know there are no such thing as "macedonians" in Pirin and the serbo-skopians will never get this bulgarian land. Feel free to put what signature you like, I don't care.

Besides, I'm not gonna lie just to please you. These are Bulgarian heroes and if you don't like it, its your problem.

BTW You also have heroes, don't worry - Stalin and Tito.

[BMPO KOMuTA]

lonevolk said:

or simply lies.

LOL What lies?

[BMPO KOMuTA]

mislesevo said:

BMPO Komuta funny u say that all Macedonians cop is cheek off u on this forum.
Pozdrav.

You have an interesting avatar. Seem familiar to me. A Lion with a crown:







And finally the most interesting:



Don't you like your Vergina Star?

[BMPO KOMuTA]

thegoddess said:

You mean that was posted on this forum or what?

Also, I don't see how the Serbs on the forum are doing or saying anything bad.

But yes, there is also a lot of provokation from the Bulgarian side on the forum, I think everyone can see that.

Yeah - and everyone can see that you are ABSOLUTELY neutral and don't have sympathies for the serbs God knows why.....

[TheGoddess]

God knows why? What are you implying? I am not allowed to like Serbians now because you say it or what?

I have been to Serbia and I liked both the people and the country. So why should I dislike them?

And I am neutral, I am simply annoyed by trolling. You seem to miss that part.

[BMPO KOMuTA]

tsar said:

Lonevolk if anyone needs help that would be you. How does what i said have nothing to do with your post before that?

Funny u accuse me with spreading garbage to the forum, but u dont accuse ur fyromian compatriot when knowing the truth full well ur self. Then im the one who needs help.

Áðàòëå, èìà ëè ñìèñúë äà ñòîèì òóêà îùå? Íå âèæäàø ëè êàêâî ñòàâà? Àç íÿìà äà ñå çàíèìàâàì ïîâå÷å ñ ãëóïîñòè, ïúê è äðóãè ïðîáëåìè ìè ñå ñòðóïàõà. Îñòàâÿì ãè òèÿ ìúðëüîâöè äà ñè äðúíêàò ãëóïîñòè è äà ñå äàâÿò â çëîáàòà ñè. Àêî ïîñòîÿ òóêà îùå ìàëêî äà ÷åòà ïîìèÿ, ùå ïîâúðíà. Íÿìàì íàìåðåíèå äà ñå öàïàì.
Íàäÿâàì ñå äà ñè îñúçíàë ðåàëíàòà ñèòóàöèÿ è äà ñè ðàçáðàë èñòèíñêîòî ëèöå íà ñúðáåæèòå. Íàäÿâàì ñè îùå äà ñè ðàçáðàë âñúùíîñò îòêúäå èäâà ìàêåäîíèçìà è êîé ãî ïîäêðåïÿ. Ôîðóìà ñòàíà ïðåíàñåëåí ñ èäèîòè, êîèòî ïðèèæäàò âñå ïîâå÷å è ïîâå÷å. Òè ñàì âèæäàø çà êàêâî ñòàâà âúïðîñ. Îìðàçàòà è ïîìèÿòà äåòî èçëèâàò âúðõó íàñ å îãðîìíà. Àêî èìàø ïîíå ìàëêî îñòàíàëî äîñòîéíñòâî, íàïðàâè êàòî ìåí è íàïóñíè. Àç îòäàâíà ìèñëåõ äà ãî íàïðàâÿ, íî ñåãà âå ÷å ñúì òâúðäî ðåøåí.
Òóê ñúþçíèöè íå ìîæåø äà íàìåðèø. Ïî äîáðå åëà â Ùîðìôðîíòà/stormfront - òàì ïîíå öåíçóðà íÿìà è ìîæå ñâîáîäíî äà àòàêóâàìå. Àç âå÷å ñå ðåãèñòðèðàõ è â ñúþç ñ õúðâàòñêèòå áðàòÿ è ÷àñò îò ãúðöèòå ñìàçâàìå ñúðáåæèòå è áþðìàäæèèòå. Íóæíà å ïîìîù!!! Èäâàé!
Çà ïîñëåäíî ïèøà òóêà. Íÿìà ñìèñúë äà ñå óíèæàâàì ïîâå÷å ñ òèÿ êðåòåíè. Ïðîñòî íå ñà íè íà íèâîòî, áðàòëå. Òúïè, îãðàíè÷åíè è ñ ïðîìèòè ìîçúöè. È êîìóíèñòè íà âñè÷êîòî îòãîðå. Äà âúðâÿò ïî äÿâîëèòå âñè÷êèòå!

Áúëãàðèÿ íàä âñè÷êî!!!!

[BMPO KOMuTA]

thegoddess said:

And I am neutral

Yeah right....... ;D

Whatever....... You will not see me writing anymore here. Me and the other Bulgarians. Are you happy now? Hope so.

Bye bye!

[TheGoddess]

Nobody wanted to chase you out in the first place. You just have not been willing to understand this is a forum promoting unity. I would not mind if the Bulgaria/Macedonia issue got discussed because clearly there are problems. But it should be discussed in a topic specified for it and more peacefully, without causing flame wars all over the forums. I have said that many times without naming names or attacking anybody.

[Lonevolk]

bolgar said:

Áðàòëå, èìà ëè ñìèñúë äà ñòîèì òóêà îùå? Íå âèæäàø ëè êàêâî ñòàâà? Àç íÿìà äà ñå çàíèìàâàì ïîâå÷å ñ ãëóïîñòè, ïúê è äðóãè ïðîáëåìè ìè ñå ñòðóïàõà. Îñòàâÿì ãè òèÿ ìúðëüîâöè äà ñè äðúíêàò ãëóïîñòè è äà ñå äàâÿò â çëîáàòà ñè. Àêî ïîñòîÿ òóêà îùå ìàëêî äà ÷åòà ïîìèÿ, ùå ïîâúðíà. Íÿìàì íàìåðåíèå äà ñå öàïàì.
Íàäÿâàì ñå äà ñè îñúçíàë ðåàëíàòà ñèòóàöèÿ è äà ñè ðàçáðàë èñòèíñêîòî ëèöå íà ñúðáåæèòå. Íàäÿâàì ñè îùå äà ñè ðàçáðàë âñúùíîñò îòêúäå èäâà ìàêåäîíèçìà è êîé ãî ïîäêðåïÿ. Ôîðóìà ñòàíà ïðåíàñåëåí ñ èäèîòè, êîèòî ïðèèæäàò âñå ïîâå÷å è ïîâå÷å. Òè ñàì âèæäàø çà êàêâî ñòàâà âúïðîñ. Îìðàçàòà è ïîìèÿòà äåòî èçëèâàò âúðõó íàñ å îãðîìíà. Àêî èìàø ïîíå ìàëêî îñòàíàëî äîñòîéíñòâî, íàïðàâè êàòî ìåí è íàïóñíè. Àç îòäàâíà ìèñëåõ äà ãî íàïðàâÿ, íî ñåãà âå ÷å ñúì òâúðäî ðåøåí.
Òóê ñúþçíèöè íå ìîæåø äà íàìåðèø. Ïî äîáðå åëà â Ùîðìôðîíòà/stormfront - òàì ïîíå öåíçóðà íÿìà è ìîæå ñâîáîäíî äà àòàêóâàìå. Àç âå÷å ñå ðåãèñòðèðàõ è â ñúþç ñ õúðâàòñêèòå áðàòÿ è ÷àñò îò ãúðöèòå ñìàçâàìå ñúðáåæèòå è áþðìàäæèèòå. Íóæíà å ïîìîù!!! Èäâàé!
Çà ïîñëåäíî ïèøà òóêà. Íÿìà ñìèñúë äà ñå óíèæàâàì ïîâå÷å ñ òèÿ êðåòåíè. Ïðîñòî íå ñà íè íà íèâîòî, áðàòëå. Òúïè, îãðàíè÷åíè è ñ ïðîìèòè ìîçúöè. È êîìóíèñòè íà âñè÷êîòî îòãîðå. Äà âúðâÿò ïî äÿâîëèòå âñè÷êèòå!

Áúëãàðèÿ íàä âñè÷êî!!!!

After posting this tirade of abuse and insults, DON'T bother coming back.

You should feel more at home at Stormfront (as mentioned above) and at Crna Legija.com where you can wank to your hearts content.

[soldier7799]

Its sad that we must write in our slavic forum in english so sad..."Bulgarian Propaganda"-what is this why the forum is tolerating such comments?!I only see that macedonians and serbians are provoking hate between slavic people...We only reply to them as any natioanalist will reply to people hwo insult his country...

[stefan]

hah yes im sure that the only thing u see

[tryzub]

Nice articles. If anyone is interested, the story about the Orange Revolution isn't only about "liberals bringing freedom Ukraine".... It "woke up" the nation; yes, now, anyways, liberals are in control... But nationalism is rising, maybe, among the fastest of any Slavic country... From Lviv in the west to Luhansk in the east... Some politicians in Ukraine predicted the 3rd revolution in Ukraine to be a "nationalist" revolution... They say the 1st one was the national unity that got us independence, the second one was the "cultural unity"; the hope for a Ukrainianized Ukraine, growth of Ukrainian culture, etc, that got us the Orange Revolution, and eventually we'll see that as the country gets Ukrainianized, and unified, we'll see that this rapid rise in nationalism will lead to a nationalistic government; and a national awareness where we see examples of what the "liberalisation" can do.

Even today, really, though there's also less Russian influence in Ukraine (which is a good thing, remember, as long as "less Russian influence" doesn't mean "alot more American influence) support for NATO is like non existant, and only a bit better for the liberal EU (though, declining, as we see the EU really couldn't care less about us). Every nationalistic Ukrainian wants Ukraine to have a "neutral" position; no NATO, no EU, no Russian domination. Of course, it would be better to work together more with Russia then with the west, as our big, strong and brotherly neighbour. But working together and becoming the same as Russia are two different things.

[tryzub]

jarynrad said:

Nice articles. If anyone is interested, the story about the Orange Revolution isn't only about "liberals bringing freedom Ukraine".... It "woke up" the nation; yes, now, anyways, liberals are in control... But nationalism is rising, maybe, among the fastest of any Slavic country... From Lviv in the west to Luhansk in the east... Some politicians in Ukraine predicted the 3rd revolution in Ukraine to be a "nationalist" revolution... They say the 1st one was the national unity that got us independence, the second one was the "cultural unity"; the hope for a Ukrainianized Ukraine, growth of Ukrainian culture, etc, that got us the Orange Revolution, and eventually we'll see that as the country gets Ukrainianized, and unified

Yeah, only thing which would rise of nationalism bring would be civil war. 3r "nationalist" revolution would easily send Ukraina to the hell, as Americans always wanted. Nationalism for masses is empty idea, cause nationalism itself can hardly bring positive changes in economic sphere and first of all - priority for people is better standart of living, not nationalism. Nationalism in Ukraine is reaction to misery they are living in, nothing else.

I wouldn't say its because of bad living conditions; because living conditions aren't that bad. And if that was the reason, then nationalism in Ukraine should've reached its peak aroud 1996, and declined more and more ever since then as things improved; but as things have improved, its only risen. Nationalism is rising in Russia too; and living conditions are similar there. Its rising in Italy, Spain, etc; and living conditions there aren't bad. Its not nationalism as in the "extreme" sense, just a more national awareness I guess its better to say. "Extreme" nationalism is bad, in my opinion. But the one I'm referring to is good for any country; from Ukraine to Japan.