It shouldn't stand in the way of unity, but because Russian has had more time ot freely develop, and is used by more speakers, a "union" would probably end the Ukrainian language as we know it... Russian would be spoken everywhere, but Ukrainian... I don't know... And thats why alot of patriotic Ukrianians are cautious about this "union"..
Nice articles. If anyone is interested, the story about the Orange Revolution isn't only about "liberals bringing freedom Ukraine".... It "woke up" the nation;
Orange Revolution was an NWO-zhyd orchestrated event to break down whatever little remains of Ukrainian sovereignty and to bring us FIRMLY under NWO control.
Yes, but I think it did two things... That, and produced a more nationalistic people living in Ukraine... It made people more 'proud' to live in Ukraine and be Ukrainian... So if their only plan was to "liberalise" Ukraine and make it more tolerant; it failed miserably, and did something quite the opposite.
And btw, doesn't Russia accept more immigrants than any country in the world? Most from the Caucasus... And, isn't Putin selling land or something in the east to alot of Chinese people? Thats what I've heard anyway.
Post by SRBIN-MILOS on Aug 16, 2007 19:02:46 GMT -5
You are absolutely right, bro! I don't see any ukrainians here, and the bulgarians and croatians are under constant serbian attack.
While you praise ustashas and scream "Srbe na vrbe!" on the slavic unity forum. I haven't seen a Serb here offending any slavic nation like that. You are pathetic, too bad you don't see it.
I agree with you, although I'm new, I'd like to say a few things, the croats may be a Slavic nation but they have been strongly germanized during past few hundreds of years, therefore I think they dont even see them selves as slavs but as a german Instrument for destroying one of the largest slavic nations in the balkans which is Serbian nation. They actions rather take destructive than constructive ways when it comes to the lets say SLAVIC nationalism. That is why I think the Croats can not be even taken as Slavic nation anymore, why would they, when even they dont want that. So Croats I'm sorry, I know really a lot of you good guys, but your national politics is totally destructive toward the Slavs and therefore your opinion doesn't count for me.
@kolovrat Are you talking about kraljevina SHS or jugoslavija or was there some other serbian plan of united slavs ?
...had the South Slavic Union formed, the federation would have encompassed: Bulgaria, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Bosnia, Croatia, Slovenia, Vojvodina, Kosovo and possibly Albania (probably united with Kosovo). It would have had a larger area than that of present-day Germany and a population of about 35 million people...
Croats are not real-life germanized but psychicaly germanized during strong history/politic campaign since 1991. and Balkan wars.
But now nation is a matter of what you wish and if they want to be Germans ... ok ... funny but... i dont care...
serbs always had a feeling of "being a Slav"
Serbian King after WWI was first initiator of first Balkan Slavic confederation, even a name YugoSLAVIA
@hej Sloveni@ was serbian war song against Austran forces in WWI it is not Yugoslavian communist song...as many people think as it is... but written much earlier...
this forum also say something how many serbs are here? every third post started by a Serb!
There is definitely some truth to this. I've read many threads from certain Croats, not on this forum, but elsewhere, where Croats were saying things like they are ethnically "German" and that they aren't Slavs because they are descendants of the Goths. I could be mistaken, but I think these are arguments that Hitler put forth concerning the Bosnians and the Croats. Many derogatory remarks towards Serbs, Slovenes, etc. I'm not saying every Croat is like this, but it seems to be a trend with them to be anti-Slav, Pro-Nazi, German. I'm sure there are some pro-Slav Croats.
"Capitalism is a religion that mixes Satan and God, and teaches self-righteous people to embrace a fasade"- Immortal Technique
Interesting article, but it has a fundamental flaw. It is titled "Why Nationalism?" jet it is written from the point of view of Cosmopolitanism.
I am not a Nationalist because that is the most efficent way to stop Cosmopolitanism. I do not love my people in order to defy Internationalism. I do not identify with my Nation in order to frustrate Communism. I do not take pride in my ancestry because that is the only why to fight `Liberalism`.
I take pride in my narod because it is what I am and to whom I belong. It is as simple as that. That might be frustrating the hell out of who knows how many anti-Nationalist ideologies, but that has nothing to do with why I am a Nationalist.
And my heart isn`t with Russia because she is the only beacon of light in the fight against Globalism. My heart is with Russians because they are my Slavic brethren.
Maybe the article should have been titled `Why Nationalism is a thorn in the neck of Cosmopolitanism?`. The title `Why Nationalism?` combined with the present text actually sends out a message we are Nationalists simply because we are mischievous little rebells without a cause just looking for the best way to frustrate the plans of the present day brand of Universalism.
Post by vjacheslav on Feb 14, 2008 10:40:10 GMT -5
trizub have written " a "union" would probably end the Ukrainian language as we know it... Russian would be spoken everywhere, but Ukrainian... I don't know... And thats why alot of patriotic Ukrianians are cautious about this "union".. "
These are "fairy tails" of the Jew's Orange revolution to prevent the Slav union. Nothing will happen with Ukrainian language, because Union will not consider the encrease of Russian-speaking people, the population and the language surrounding in Ukraine will stay the same. Ukrainian is not dead language and we at job speak the language we prefer. No one forces to speak any of languages and everyone understand each other.
Last Edit: Feb 14, 2008 10:41:00 GMT -5 by vjacheslav
anthrohistory.ipb.su Ukrainian forum on history and anthropology: all Slavic languages are welcome, Slavic News sub-forum is present, identifying your anthrotype is possible.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If we want to take over the government we have to give the people more than promises. We have to guarantee that our government will not dominate the people but serve the people. The guarantee is going to be given in the form of a declaration signed by every member of the government and every state employee stating that if I betray the nation, if I steal from the nation, if I do anything fraudulent knowingly I do Know and accept there will be only one punishment, death. This legal change of government will require a new political party from the people, willing to guarantee honesty in the government. Because of freedom in thinking, there are no innocent bystanders. How many will refuse to vote for a future president willing to guarantee the honesty of government with his life?
let me contribute to our effort to make slavic countries really free , to be without corrupt politicians. For to be in politics is very profitable enterprise.And for that ,for money and personal aggrandizement,they sell us out. Right now every government is an enemy to the people. And here is the way with which to right the wrong.
----kozacke riesenie---------------------------------------------------------------------------- If we want to take over the government we have to give the people more than promises. We have to guarantee that our government will not dominate the people but serve the people. The guarantee is going to be given in the form of a declaration signed by every member of the government and every state employee stating that if I betray the nation, if I steal from the nation, if I do anything fraudulent knowingly I do Know and accept there will be only one punishment, death. This legal change of government will require a new political party from the people, willing to guarantee honesty in the government. Because of freedom in thinking, there are no innocent bystanders. How many will refuse to vote for a future president willing to guarantee the honesty of government with his life?
I think this is a big issue here on the forum, because its tolerated to be Russian, Serbian.. nationalist, but not Croatian, Ukranian...
Well I have many Serbian m8s and we get along just fine. I'm of Irish and Slovak decent and a Traditionalist Catholic and would stand up against a croat or albo scum any day to defend them and the rest of my Serbian Slavic brothers. This is a time for unity amongst the real Slavic peoples and the centuries old pissing match between the Catholics and Orthodox must stop. We both come from the Holy Apostolic Church and have valid Orders and Sacraments. The muslims unite to kill us but yet we still squabble and bicker.
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