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Post by Orao on Dec 27, 2007 23:51:03 GMT -5
Twisted version of Hitlers Youth? No they're bunch of circus clowns practicing for their act  Jeez... I knew Bosnians are stupid, but so much?  Siris predrasude... |
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Post by Orao on Dec 28, 2007 0:22:00 GMT -5
God damn Orao. Can`t you check on wiki before you say something as stupid as that? Measuring skulls, eye color, skin color? All too reminiscient of the Nazis and Aryanism.... and all that came with it. |
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Post by slavfighter91 on Dec 29, 2007 6:56:57 GMT -5
So now in my holidays i drove back home to poland, to my family. I used that chance to talk with people about their opinion on politics, especially how the attitude towards Slavic countries is,and unfortunatly i fond out that people here (Wojwótswo Wielkopolska) dont care if America asimilates our culture or what Russia is doing. People mostly care about themselves, and not about ther own country...so i ask you...do yo know other times...or are there any true patriot left in our country? i dont want to believe that we have to give up Poland.
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Post by slavfighter91 on Dec 29, 2007 6:57:57 GMT -5
crap wrong opic...any mod please make that postof mine a new topic..thanks
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Post by Slavski on Dec 29, 2007 7:19:48 GMT -5
crap wrong opic...any mod please make that postof mine a new topic..thanks Sorry but I cant make it a new topic and keep you as the author at the same time. It would look as if I had wrote it. Can you just create a new topic and then delete the posts that were in error? |
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Post by Zik on Jan 5, 2008 13:01:13 GMT -5
Well, the Czech Republic is the crossing of Europe. Near us are Germans, there were Celts etc. But, 51 % is Slavic origin - so we can say we are Slavics! And we have a Slavic language.
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ceskybojovnik1938
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Na mnozstvi nehledte - Never regard thier numbers
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Post by ceskybojovnik1938 on Jan 5, 2008 19:25:54 GMT -5
Zik, it is true what you say about the Czech land being the crossing of Europe, the heart of Europe in fact, the bridge between east and west and north and south and such the Czechs have been exposed to many different cultures, eastern and western, northern and southern. It doesnt matter what percentage is Slavic, the fact is the people themselves are white europeans with a western slavic heritage, and share much with fellow Poles and Slovaks. There has been some mixing with non slavs, notably Austrians and German speakers but which slavic nation hasnt? Slavs have been mixing with other white europeans most noted Germanic and Celtic since they arrived in Europe. Not forgetting that the Czechs were part of the first slavic state and also had an empire spanning parts of what is now the Czech rep, Poland, Slovakia, Germany, Serbia, Hungary, Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Romania and Ukraine. Greater Moravian Empire 833-10thC upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Great_moravia_svatopluk.png/300px-Great_moravia_svatopluk.pnId rather the Czechs had mixed with Celts or Germanics rather than asians or arabs, it was good enough for our ancestors so its good enough for me. Europe doesnt just belong to slavs, it belongs to Europeans weather they be Slavic or not and to expect a people never to mix is just plain stupid and has very nazi like overtones. Considering the Czechs have been ruled by a non slavic entity for hundreds of years and fought many wars with much greater powers for thier survival (like many slavic nations) thier land, culture, heritage, and language have at least remained slavic and if you ask most Czechs today they are first proud of being Czech and second, proud of being slavic. |
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Post by emil on Jan 27, 2008 19:55:33 GMT -5
As far as I know, most of us in the Czech Republic know that we are Slav. And basically EVERBODY knows that our mentality is very different from Germans. We have more spontaneity and are less “machine-like”, we lived with Germans and our language was almost lost, spoken only in villages, but our intelligentsia of 19 century managed to save it. But in the present Czech society Czechs do not feel very connected with other Slavonic nations, because we have been subject of 40 years of CCCP colonisation. I have visited Russia. There are some pure looking Slavs- blond, with blue eyes, beautiful people to look at but not many. Most people are to a degree mixed with Tatars who ruled the country for a long time. You see many people in Russia with Chinese eyes and some with mixed Caucasus blood. I would also react to some comments, about my country being americanised, well Russia is also Americanised- people watch American Hollywood action movies and listen to English songs. I know we don’t own much in our country, the western companies took over country which was week after 40 years of soviet nonsense, not competitive and totalitarian economy, but at least we don’t pay pensioners with manure like in Russia (I know that it was extreme case) and Russia with all its natural resources is relatively poor country and the wealth is not in Russian Slavonic hand, but as far as I know most Russian rich people are Jewish (Abramovich etc.) Even if this DNA test has some truth in it, it is your heart which determines who you are, not genes. Also never in my life I heard a person in the CR to say, that he is Celt and I met only few Sudeten Germans. Most Jews were killed in war or immigrated to Israel after war. We have no Muslims and apart from Roma (Gypsy) etnicum we are one of least mixed societies in Europe. Do you know that the First Slavonic Congress was hold in Prague?? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Slavic_Congress%2C_1848 |
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Post by Alexandrus on Jan 28, 2008 12:15:07 GMT -5
That's a load of crap, you didn't even bring one source to back up your slander against the largest slavic nation. www.eupedia.com/images/content/blue_eyes_map.jpgCompare Russia to the Czech Republic. If you ever visited Russia, which by the jack-shit you wrote you probably didn't, you'd find that most ETHNIC russians have fair eyes. I just want you to show me one picture of an ethnic Russian with "chinese eyes". You also judge a nations slavicness by its income and economy ? Oh yeah and unlike most slavs, we dont have some alternative origin theory. |
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Post by emil on Jan 28, 2008 18:21:36 GMT -5
Well thanks Polkovnik, you brought one source which support what I said yourself: the map clearly shows, that only in the Northern part of Russia inhabitants have blue eyes. I do not claim that I know Russia very well, I have spend a month there and I just SINCERELY describe what I saw with my own eyes. Also I know that I was mainly in St. Peterburg and Moscow and these cities attract people from ex CCCP, who are not actually Russian.
I DO NOT judge the nation’s ethnicity by income, please read my post again, I was simply talking about economic situation. I do not understand what you are trying say by alternative theory of origin. The theory as far as we know it, is that original motherland of Slavs were Ukraine, we spoke the same language and from there we spread to the South and West.
If you have a post of Polkovnik I would expect you are an educated person and would not use swear words.
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ceskybojovnik1938
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Na mnozstvi nehledte - Never regard thier numbers
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Post by ceskybojovnik1938 on Jan 28, 2008 18:36:36 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum Emil, good to see a level headed Czech posting on here.
Enlighten us please, this sounds interesting.
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emil
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Post by emil on Jan 28, 2008 18:57:35 GMT -5
Thanks ceskybojovnik1938,
I hope I have not offended anyone, but I had a feeling, that I can give a subjective Czech point of view. I do like Russian people, my wife is Russian speaking Ukrainian and I watched lots of Russian movies with her and I speak fairly good Russian.
Anyway mixing is not always bad, it renews the genes, look at some South Americans, how young they look, plus even the greatest Russian poet Pushkin had some African blood.
The only problem with Russia is that they accepted evil middle eastern philosophy of communism and they suffered due to it a lot.
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Post by gleb on Jan 29, 2008 5:04:24 GMT -5
Emil, I think that you're right. All the business is run by the jews.
Russian big cities are full of caucasians, turks and people from middle east. It is a cost of being a big country with plenty of opportunities for lide improvement. It is impossible for Russia to have 150 mln. population and to stay mono-ethnic. In some case it has it's positive sides. For example poly-ethnic countries are insured from degeneration. Btw, I must say that I have a good attitude towards the Tatars. Those of them, who live in Petersburg and Moscow are well integrated in our society. Some of them are my good friends.
Moscow and St-Petersburg are the biggest slavic cities. St-Petersburg is officialy about 4,5 mln. of people with over a million of people, who have no registration. Moscow is about 15 mln. of people. Such cities atractive for immigrants. The level of life is higher than in other Russian cities, wages there are also biggest in Russia.
Somwhere in the region of Novgorod you won't see black faces. People from the deep provinces are more united and less indifferent to each other. That's why they hold their territories.
About the economy. Our state can't care our homless children, our pensioners. But that improves day by day. The level of life is often comparable to European (in the big cities). I can judge because my own income became several times bigger during last 4-5 years.
Your post is right in common.
But I don't understand, why did you decide to make comparisons with Russia in your posts. This topic is about Czechs, if I'm not mistakingP:). It's very easy to notice bad things talking about Russia. I just wanted to say that many things have changed during last years. And Russians are to tired of the bad things. All the 90's we were ashamed. Ashamed for our poverty, for our president, for our history etc. All the humorists on the TV were poking fun on our corruption, poverty etc. We are now simply tired of that. And, God Bless, something's changes.
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Post by joko on Jan 30, 2008 15:20:14 GMT -5
Just for interest compare faces of people taking place in both - Russian and Czech goverment. The map brought by pony tail daver2 is ridicilous. How could be Russia and Ukraina painted in the same colour as Turkey is? The map looks like German "master race" reborn. Hitler said about certain European area that it is "birthplace of European civilisation" and he named few states/areas. For same reason this map copies his idea. "Aryan" look is also important to prevent multi-cultural muds and it is also aesthetic, but the look itself - sad to say - is not enough. Not enough at all! --- btw. this "russian" with chinese eyes sits in Czech government.  So you are saying that Slavs with Almond shaped eyes are not Slavs?? There are probably more Slavs who look like that than Slavs with "Aryan" characteristics... Not even alot of Germans look "Aryan".. |
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Post by dmitarzvonimir on Jan 31, 2008 4:41:56 GMT -5
well, the germans i saw looked very fat and some of them got an ugly pink skin colour.
not very few of them are beatiful or even nice.
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