Turkey sends delegation to Russia for Mi-28 attack helicopters.
todayszaman. ^ | 08/06/09
Turkey, whose earlier request to buy US Cobra attack helicopters has so far been turned down on grounds that they are not available, is sending a military-led delegation to Russia today to further talks over the planned acquisition of at least 12 Mil Mi-28 “Havoc” attack helicopters as a stop gap measure in the fight against the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), Today's Zaman has learned.
A Turkish military delegation's planned visit to Moscow, expected to start today, comes in the midst of calls made by Turkish Chief of General Staff Gen. İlker Başbuğ in Washington for the US administration to sell urgently required military hardware to Turkey, including attack helicopters and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).
Gen. Başbuğ made a June 1 speech at the annual meeting of the American-Turkish Council (ATC), held in Washington, during which he urged the US to carry the existing cooperation between the two NATO allies in the fight against the PKK from the existing US supply of real-time intelligence to a new phase of cooperation. “This cooperation should go beyond the existing intelligence cooperation,” Başbuğ said.
Turkish fighters have been engaged in aerial bombardments of PKK targets in northern Iraq since December 2007, using US-supplied real-time intelligence, which has been critical in pinpointing PKK targets accurately to avoid serious collateral damage. The US has been using UAVs, satellites and Lockheed Martin-made U-2 High-Altitude Reconnaissance Aircraft (Dragon Lady) to supply Turkey with real-time intelligence on PKK activities in northern Iraq, while the Turkish military has been using Israeli-made UAVs purchased earlier as a stopgap measure to gather intelligence on the PKK inside the country.
Turkish military analysts told Today's Zaman that Gen. Başbuğ meant with his statement in Washington that Turkish-US cooperation should go beyond the existing intelligence cooperation and that the US should sell military hardware to Turkey.
Turkey has already applied to the US for the purchase of two General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, Inc.-made Predator UAVs, while an earlier Turkish demand for the purchase of up to 12 US Bell-made Cobra attack helicopters have so far been turned down by Washington due to their unavailability in the next several years.
But the US's refusal to sell the Cobras to Turkey is believed to be because of Turkey's decision in 2007 to produce 50 Italian AugustaWestland-made attack and tactical reconnaissance helicopters, named “ATAK,” when the Italian company agreed to transfer technology so that helicopters meeting specific Turkish requests will be built at Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) facilities in Ankara.
The first T129 attack helicopter (designated as the T129, a Turkish version of the A129 Mangusta) is planned to be produced in 2015.
Ankara signed a deal worth around $2.7 billion with AugustaWestland in June 2008 for the production of 50 ATAKs, but the Turkish Armed Forces (TSK) declined AugustaWestland's offer of off-the-shelf A129 Mangusta attack helicopters as an interim solution on the grounds that the current A129 helicopters would not meet its urgent operational requirements.
US companies did not bid in the attack project as they could not meet the Turkish contract terms and conditions, which sought a transfer of technology, prohibited under US law.
According to a senior Turkish defense industrialist, had Turkey signed a deal with the US for the production of attack helicopters, he is confident Washington would have supplied Turkey with Cobras as an interim measure.
Since the possibility of the US supplying Turkey with Cobra helicopters is now low, Turkey has sped up efforts to buy the advanced Russian Mi-28 helicopters that the TSK has been keen on buying.
During the visit to Russia, a Turkish military-led delegation will learn the price and quick delivery options of the Mi-28 helicopters, the Turkish sources said. Turkey is believed to have five or six operational Cobras in its inventory. Attack helicopters are one of the key players in the fight against the PKK. Turkey entered talks with Russia's Rosoboronexport late last year for the purchase of 12 Mi-28 attack helicopters, as revealed by Today's Zaman at the time.
British frontline troops in Afghanistan are so short of helicopters and transport planes that they are being bailed out by the Russians.
The Mail on Sunday has established that the Ministry of Defence is using civilian Russian-built Mi-8 and Mi-26 transport helicopters to ferry supplies and soldiers in Afghanistan. The pilots are freelance Russians and Ukrainians.
Britain is also hiring massive commercial Russian Antonov aircraft to fly vehicles and heavy equipment from RAF Brize Norton in Oxfordshire to Afghanistan.
BTW I READ THAT RUSSIA IS GONNA START PRODUCING NEW ANTONOVS AGAIN!!!
One of the most powerful and agile fighting helicopters in the world cuts through the air like an arrow. The armor-plated beast KA-52, aka The Alligator, wows the crowds at the MAKS International Air Show near Moscow.
The skies near Moscow are seeing the best of Russian and international aerobatics as the third day of the MAKS International Air Show gets underway.
On the so-called “Moscow Day” officials from the Moscow government are attending the event to strike deals with aircraft makers, as the Russian capital has its very own civic airline and uses different types of aircraft to patrol the skies around the city.
The main deal of the third day worth $1.2 billion is a contract between Russia’s Ilyushin Finance Co. (IFC) and Moscow’s Atlant-Soyuz Airlines over the lease of 30 AN148-100 and 15 TU-204SM planes.
The first two days of the air show have been quite successful as well, and deals struck include the contract for the supply of 20 Russian helicopters to a company based in the United Arab Emirates and the purchase by Rosavia airline of 65 narrow-body aircraft from domestic and foreign manufacturers.
The MAKS International Air Show in Moscow is one of the major air shows of the year, says Boeing Russia/CIS President Sergey Kravchenko, and it’s obvious that the Russian government pays a lot of attention to it despite the economic crisis.
The show is well-organized and provides both good business opportunities and lots of pleasure for people interested aviation, Kravchenko adds.
The Russian Air Force Commander has also heralded the MAKS 2009 air show a great success.
“We have a long-term contract to receive Su-34 fighters and we're also planning to purchase the new Yak-30 fighters, modernized Mi-28NM attack helicopters, and the newest Ka-52 helicopters. Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has ordered the modernization of the Russian Armed forces, and this obviously includes the Air Force,” Col. Gen. Aleksandr Zelin said.
The Moscow Day was opened by solitary KA helicopter carrying a Moscow flag over the MAKS flying field. The Alligator: more bite than The Black Shark?
The Alligator is armed to the teeth with weapons more advanced and superior than existing combat helicopters.
KA-52 carries a dozen anti-tank missiles which can hit a target eight kilometres away, a powerful 30-mm cannon and a huge battery of rockets work as a defence and aid in ground assaults.
Just like its predecessor KA-50 – The Black Shark – it has no tail rotor which is marks it apart from other flying predators.
Moreover, KA-52’s opposite-spinning blades make it immune to strong winds from all directions. Its simple handling could be crucial in combat. The Alligator can work in almost any weather, day or night. And its unique tail design means it needs less space to land which is handy for working in the mountains, the forest, or even in the city.
Pilots say operating The Alligator is like driving an automatic after driving a manual.
“It’s easier to land and easier to take off. With a tail rotor you have to manage both – that one and the one on top. But here you just don’t think about it. It’s very unfussy,” says elite test pilot Aleksandr Smirnov.
Twin rotor blades are the trademark of the whole family of Kamov (KA) helicopters. They add to the chopper’s manoeuvrability, safety, and they make it easier for pilots to handle the machine. And Kamov is the only brand in the world producing fighting helicopters without tail rotors.
And The Alligator’s aerial acrobatics are only the start as it is equipped with highly-advanced lasers and sophisticated data systems designed to make locating and targeting much easier.
Aleksandr Smirnov has been testing helicopters for thirty years, and says The Alligator is the most reliable chopper he’s ever piloted.
“We’ve never had a radar-location system like the one installed in this chopper. It has a very powerful attack warning system. Here we get accurate information about the objects that are aiming at the helicopter,” Aleksandr Smirnov explains.
One more unique characteristic of The Alligator is its twin-seat cockpit. Sitting side by side, the pilots can co-ordinate their actions better – and each can take control.
“Just imagine – you’re sitting in a car and your co-pilot is sitting behind you… how well can you correlate with him if you don’t see him? And here I can just look him in the eye and see what he's up to in any given situation. It’s like playing piano with four hands,” Aleksandr Smirnov says.
The KA-52 is going through its final tests. If successful, The Alligator can then be released into the wild – and become the powerhouse of Russia’s airborne special units.
Video of hit NATO chopper tugged by Giant Russian helicopter.
RussiaToday December 23, 2009
A Russian crew has successfully returned a NATO chopper to its airbase in Kandahar after the craft came under attack. The Dutch helicopter was damaged by gunfire in Southern Afghanistan. After being shot at, the Cougar helicopter made an emergency landing at an American military camp. It took the Russian Mi-26 half an hour to bring the 10-ton Cougar back. The Russian helicopter has been on similar rescue missions before, moving three of the U.S.'s largest Chinook helicopters - including one this October. The helicopter has been serving NATO troops in Afghanistan for more than three years. The Mi-26 is the biggest and most powerful helicopter ever to go into serial production.
The first Black Hawk helicopter manufactured in Poland rolls off production lines at the PZL Mielec company plant.
The Polish aerospace manufacturer, based in the southern town of Mielec, will produce 36 helicopters a year. Black Hawk S-70 is a medium transport/utility helicopter, which can perform a wide range of missions, including air and electronic warfare and medical evacuation duties.
The Polish Black Hawk’s debut comes a year after the presentation of its cabin, manufactured entirely by Polish engineers.
“We needed the best specialists with high qualifications and skills in order to assemble a Black Hawk’s cabin which consists of 2400 parts,” says Bob Kokorda from the Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation, a company based in Statford, the US, which bought PZL Mielec in March 2007 for 250 million zloty (64 million euro).
“Polish employees are very efficient and their work is of high quality” added Kokorda.
The demand for the helicopters around the world is estimated at about 500 machines a year. (mg)
Russia could modernize Slovakian combat helicopters.
Russia could help Slovakia modernize its fleet of Soviet-made combat helicopters, a Russian presidential aide said on Tuesday.
Russia's President Dmitry Medvedev will visit Slovakia on April 6-7 at the invitation of Slovakia's President Ivan Gasparovic. The presidents are planning to discuss military-technical cooperation among other issues.
"We are conducting talks on repairs and modernization of Mi-17 and Mi-35 helicopters in service with the Slovakian air force," Sergei Prikhodko said.
The Slovakian combat helicopter fleet is composed entirely of Russian types, including the Mi-35 (an export version of the Mi-24 Hind), Mi-17 (an export version of the Mi-8 Hip) and Mi-2 Hoplite models.
In 2008, Russia gave 12 modernized MiG-29 fighters to Slovakia.
The 12 MiG-29AS/MiG-29UBS fighters were upgraded in Slovakia by the MiG company and Western firms for NATO compatibility under a 2004 contract. The Slovak Air Force currently has a total of 21 MiG-29 aircraft in service.
Post by TsarSamuil on Apr 19, 2010 11:14:25 GMT -5
Mi-35M copters handed over to Brazil's Air Force in ceremony.
RIO-DEJANEIRO, April 18 (Itar-Tass) -- The Brazilian Air Force has received the first three Mi-35M transport and combat helicopters.
The handing-over ceremony and a military parade in this connection took place at the Brazilian air base of Porto Velho in the southwestern Amazon region on Saturday.
A Russian delegation headed by Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev participated in the ceremony. Rosoboronexport’s director-general Anatoly Isaikin and the Rostvertol Rostov-based helicopter plant’s director-general Boris Slyusar also arrived at the base.
Brazil's representatives were Defence Minister Nelson Jobim and the Air Force commander in chief.
Rosoboronexport concluded the contract in 2008 to supply Russian transport and combat helicopters to Brazil.
Experts say the Mi-35M has proved to be an excellent helicopter that can work under extremely heavy conditions of the hot and humid Amazon rainforest climate. Local pilots very highly appraise the reliability and other operational qualities of the aircraft that has impressive piloting and technical characteristics.
Russian company unveils plans for 5th-generation 'invisible' helicopters.
A Russian helicopter company is planning to develop the world's first fifth-generation combat helicopter, which experts say would be able to attack fighter jets and be invisible for radars, the Gazeta daily said on Thursday.
"We are working on the concept of the fifth-generation combat helicopter," the paper quoted the company's CEO, Andrei Shibitov, as saying at a news conference in Moscow.
Shibitov did not specify the characteristics of the helicopter, but said the company was going to spend some $1 billion on the project, with more investment expected to be allocated from the state budget.
The official said the Mil design bureau had been working on a classical rotor model, which features a large main rotor and a smaller auxiliary rotor, while the Kamov design bureau had been developing a coaxial rotor model.
Military experts believe that the coaxial rotor model is more stable and easy to fly while the classical model is more reliable and has a higher degree of survivability on the battlefield.
First deputy head of the Russian Academy of Geopolitical Issues, Konstantin Sivkov, told the paper that fifth-generation combat helicopters have never been built before, although the United States has recently begun working on a similar project.
He said a fifth-generation combat helicopter must have a low radar signature, a high noise reduction, an extended flying range, be equipped with a computerized arms control system, be able to combat fighter jets (existing helicopters are generally only intended to hit ground-based targets) and reach a speed of up to 500-600 km/h (310-370 mph).
The project cannot proceed, however, unless it is backed by the government.
"If the government does not sign a contract, the idea will die on the vine," head of the Russian Academy of Geopolitical Issues Leonid Ivashov told Gazeta.
Ivashov said that with sufficient investment and good organization the new helicopter could be built within five years. Otherwise, the project may drag on for 20-30 years.
But he was somewhat skeptical about the chances of carrying out the project.
"We have been trying to tackle everything - fifth-generation planes, fifth-generation helicopters, but nothing of this have so far been supplied to the army - today the army still uses helicopters produced in 1970s," Ivashov said.
Russia's main combat helicopter, the Mi-24 Hind, is a third-generation helicopter, and a few Mi-28 Havoc, Ka-50 and Ka-52 Hokum, which have just started to arrive in the Russian army, are fourth-generation helicopters.
MOSCOW, May 13 (RIA Novosti)
Last Edit: May 13, 2010 20:38:34 GMT -5 by TsarSamuil
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