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Post by SerdarVukota on Dec 4, 2007 7:34:55 GMT -5
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Post by garagulya on Dec 8, 2007 19:45:47 GMT -5
How did this exactly Happen? Was it an accident or did it get shot down?
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Post by Lonevolk on Dec 8, 2007 20:01:04 GMT -5
How did this exactly Happen? Was it an accident or did it get shot down? It was shot down. I'll see later on if I can find the discussion we had about this a while back.
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Post by Jarovit on Dec 9, 2007 14:41:51 GMT -5
Stealth does not equal invisible. The "stealthiness" of the F-117 bombers was compromised because of rain and because they had open bomb bay doors. ;D "On March 27, 1999, the 3rd Battalion of the 250th Missile Brigade under the command of Colonel Zoltán Dani, equipped with the Isayev S-125 'Neva-M' (NATO designation SA-3 Goa), downed an American F-117 Nighthawk with a Neva-M missile.[7] According to Wesley Clark and other NATO generals, Yugoslav air defenses found that they could detect F-117s with their "obsolete" Soviet radars operating on long wavelengths. This, combined with the loss of stealth when the jets got wet or opened their bomb bays, made them visible on radar screens. The pilot successfully ejected and was rescued by CSAR forces near Belgrade. The incident was the first and so far only time a stealth aircraft was ever shot down in history."en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_NATO_bombing_of_the_Federal_Republic_of_Yugoslavia#Air_War
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Post by Lonevolk on Dec 9, 2007 18:47:52 GMT -5
At least 2 more F-117 were hit (Total of 3), one of which crash landed in Bosnia (or crashed - it's not clear) while the other made it back to base. Nato does not confirm it's losses but there is some indirect evidence from "Airforces Monthly". April 21 An F-117A 86-0837/'OT' of the USAF 422nd TES "suffered extensive damage in an unspecified landing accident, details unconfirmed, but reported as a Class A accident." (source: Air Forces Monthly, August 1999, p. 74) An F-117A of the 49th FW was damaged during strike mission by a nearby explosion of an SA-3 SAM, "...causing loss of part of the tail section, but the aircraft was able to return safely to Spangdahlem air base, Germany." (source: Air Force Monthly, July 1999, p. 75) .............. Like "Jarovit" mentioned, the old style radars that operate on long wavelengths can (to a degree) detect stealth aircraft. Also, the Americans had a tendency to use the same approach lanes day after day, giving the air-defences better opportunities to fire on them. It's hard to find official confirmation of exact losses because they are still classified. Officially, Serbian sources claim theyu have hit about 60 air targets (they have radar evidence of a missile hitting a target), but that doesn't mean 60 aircraft were shot down. Some could've been near misses or if hit, they could've made it back to base... A few examples:  There is some evidence of other losses which haven't been acknowledged officially Kiowa Scout helicopter - May 1999, just across the Drina river in Bosnia (Nato explains this as an 'accident')  The following has never been properly explained. It's from a western news report about a shot down "Serbian Mig-29" ( pay attention to the english writing 'Annual Inspection...'). It's true that 2 x Mig-29s were shot down that day and crashed in Bosnia, but there was a report of a F-15 being lost in the area.....so it's possible that in their haste, they inadvertently showed the F-15 crashed site instead of the Mig-29 
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