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Post by pastir on Jan 5, 2008 15:48:02 GMT -5
Well "the other side" had it`s own possibly bigger officer problems. With some that were promoted for a few levels in `91 or `92 and some that weren`t in the JNA beforehand hopelessly out of their depth. But the problem was mitigated because those armies were new or more local based so there was less drill and discipline. So a self-destructive order was not neccesarily going to be carried out. Also the new armies had a couple of local leaders with little prior military experience that would grow into legends, but would have never made it past corporal in a rigid force like the JNA.
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Post by Lonevolk on Jan 5, 2008 17:17:21 GMT -5
The main problem as I see it with the JNA were the officers.
A lot of them were promoted on political grounds even thogh they couldn't find their arse with 2 hands.....obviously there were exceptions to the rule who were exceptional leaders and others were capable enough, but overall they were poor leaders.....and these people were suppose to lead 18-19 year old kids with 3 months worth of training (conscripts) into a war???....it's a recipe for disaster.
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I'll pick the Serbian Army of 1999 (the Kosovo war) over the JNA of 1991 (even though on paper it's bigger) any day.
I can't speak for the other republics, but I'm guessing it's the same there.
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Post by pastir on Jan 5, 2008 18:09:06 GMT -5
I'll pick the Serbian Army of 1999 (the Kosovo war) over the JNA of 1991 (even though on paper it's bigger) any day. Yeah, but JNA of 1991 is JNA of 1991. JNA of 1975 on the other hand... |
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Post by Lonevolk on Jan 7, 2008 17:27:27 GMT -5
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Post by Lonevolk on Jan 7, 2008 17:31:10 GMT -5
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Post by Lonevolk on Jan 7, 2008 17:33:49 GMT -5
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Post by Lonevolk on Jan 7, 2008 17:34:54 GMT -5
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Post by Lonevolk on Jan 7, 2008 17:40:34 GMT -5
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Post by rovchanin on Jan 7, 2008 17:40:47 GMT -5
nice pics:) but do you have anything newer:)?
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Post by Lonevolk on Jan 7, 2008 17:46:33 GMT -5
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Post by pastir on Jan 8, 2008 10:47:00 GMT -5
It depends in what context the 1975 Army would have to fight a war, but I suspect it would have the same problems (splitting along ethnic lines) In the context of invading Italy and slapping the spaghetti lovers a little bit. |
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Post by Lonevolk on Jan 10, 2008 22:48:02 GMT -5
In the context of invading Italy and slapping the spaghetti lovers a little bit. In a hypothetical war, I would say we would win in a defensive war (if they invaded YU). I don't think we would be successful the other way around. They have a bigger population, more industry and would have Nato support. |
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Post by ljubos on Jan 11, 2008 7:04:53 GMT -5
In the context of invading Italy and slapping the spaghetti lovers a little bit. In a hypothetical war, I would say we would win in a defensive war (if they invaded YU). I don't think we would be successful the other way around. They have a bigger population, more industry and would have Nato support. Remember, wre are talking about italians (let say nato doesn't exist). Yes they can desing clothes, produce good vino and fast cars. But when it comes to war (since roman empire) they are useless. It would be totally different if we were talking about germans. Their results from past wars are quite obvius: Italo-Abyssinian war, Battles of the Isonzo(especially 12th).. their forces base on foreign allies. |
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Post by pastir on Jan 11, 2008 8:20:44 GMT -5
In a hypothetical war, I would say we would win in a defensive war (if they invaded YU). I don't think we would be successful the other way around. They have a bigger population, more industry and would have Nato support. But that wasn`t the question. The question was wether JNA of 1975 would do a better job of fighting Italy than the Serbian army of 1999 would. |
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Post by Lonevolk on Jan 17, 2008 19:17:49 GMT -5
But that wasn`t the question. The question was wether JNA of 1975 would do a better job of fighting Italy than the Serbian army of 1999 would. The Serbian and Italian armies fighting each other on their own is possible only in theory. Hypothetically speaking, the JNA airforce was much more powerful than the VJ airforce (as the Serb Army was known back then) so in the air the JNA is MUCH better. But on the ground the VJ would be a better force due having much more experienced personnel and better organisation, although less numerous......proven in practice! |
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