"Am I anti Nato? Nato is not the final terminal but it is a necessary stage to the full resurrection of the greatness of WARSAW PACT the only one organism that really could defend NATIONS OF THE EARTH from global casta robbers."
"To the American dreamers, if you enter here in PL with your military equipment and people will know smth. about it, that day you will remember as the beginning of the end of the zio. plan.
Poles cannot find any enemy, they fell bad with that, nobody knows who is to blame and who to beat, US fits perfect I assure you.
It would be like a fresh air to the Nation that like anger and destruction and cannot sense anything to fight within its aspiration and range for today.
Only if in danger the Poles are a Nation to its maximum, if they live in peace they are terrible, more enemies the spirit rises like a Phoenix and the Nation can create, no enemies they are blind and have to face the truth, that they are poisoned and that is why things look not the way they want." -...
We are a country with 1000 years heritage - we don't need to force anybody to become a Pole.
Post by TsarSamuil on Sept 30, 2008 14:56:49 GMT -5
India, Russia to develop 2 versions of 5th-generation fighter.
29/09/2008 15:03 NEW DELHI, September 29 (RIA Novosti) - Russia and India will jointly develop two versions of a new fifth-generation fighter, the head of an Indian defense company said on Monday.
A Russian-Indian advanced multirole fighter is being developed by Sukhoi, which is part of Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), along with India's Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), under an intergovernmental agreement signed in October 2007.
"The aircraft will have different wings, electronics and radars," HAL Chairman Ashok K. Baweja said after a meeting of the Russian-Indian intergovernmental commission on military technical cooperation in New Delhi.
He also said India will develop a two-seat version to meet the requirements of the Indian air superiority doctrine, while Russia will develop a single-seat fighter.
Russia's Sukhoi aircraft maker earlier said it had started the construction of a prototype of the fifth-generation fighter, which will feature high maneuverability and stealth to ensure air superiority and precision in destroying ground and sea targets.
The Russian version will be built at the Komsomolsk-on-Amur aircraft-manufacturing plant in Russia's Far East.
Flight tests of the fifth-generation fighter will begin as early as 2009, and mass production of the aircraft may start by 2015, Sukhoi said.
Russia's military cooperation with India goes back nearly half a century, and the country accounts for about 40% of Russian arms exports.
Russian-Indian intergovernmental commission sessions are held annually and alternate between New Delhi and Moscow. The previous meeting took place in the Russian capital in October 2007.
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The 5th generation fighter (PAK-FA program) was never in doubt.
The article confirms what's been speculated for a while, that the Russian Airforce will have it's own version with 100% Russian components while foreign partners can customise their versions (to a degree) to suit their own requirements.
Apart from India, Brazil is potentially another customer.
The 1st test flight of the prototype is suppose to happen in 2009.
There are many drawings on the net of what it's suppose to look like, but the below picture are considered the only semi-official ones since some of them were published on the "Saturn" engine producer website (the company that will supply the engines)
One day the 'rain' will come and wash all the scum off the streets
MOSCOW, April 12 (RIA Novosti) - Russian air force commander-in-chief Aleksandr Zelin has announced the cancellation of the $20-billion PAK-FA program after 20 years of escalating costs, technological glitches and redesigns failed to produce a single prototype aircraft.
The PAK-FA, once billed as Russias next-generation fighter, had consumed $13.9-billion. The estimated cost of each aircraft had soared to $87.2-million from an original target of $30-million.
Its had a long and troubled history, said Alexei Arbatov, a senior Duma official who heads the lower house committee for defense.
The PAK-FA, a new generation fighter aircraft concept, was designed to be comparable to both the American F-22 Raptor and F-35 Lightning II and has been overtaken by the need to strengthen Russias strategic nuclear forces.
Acknowledging that the PAK-FA no longer fit into the requirements of Russia, the Air Force said it would rather spend the money on an overhaul of its aviation system. If approved by the Federal Assembly, the funds would be directed instead to buy over 400 additional SU-34, SU-35 and other aircraft and to upgrade and modernize 1,400 aircraft already in service. Surface-to-air missiles also would be a priority.
Its about having an effective deterrent force, said Air Force Colonel General Alexander Zelin. Its a big decision. We know its a big decision, but its the right decision.
The end of the PAK-FA also reflects an acknowledgement by the Ministry of Defence that it simply cannot afford all the programs it wants. The move underscores the fact that the Ministry of Defence must begin economizing as the cost of new weapon systems increase and demands on military spending grow, industry analysts said.
The Air Force would have spent $20-billion on the PAK-FA program through 2012 without getting aircraft significantly more capable than the upgraded SU-35 it already plans to buy, Air Force officials said.
Some officials of the State Duma reacted angrily to the cancellation.
I am outraged by the decision to terminate the PAK-FA program given that the Air Force has long argued that it is a critical weapons system that plays a pivotal role in our defence, said State Duma deputy Vladimir Medinsky. What has changed? And how does the military plan to make up for the lost capabilities?
Alexei Arbatov, Deputy Chairman of the Defence Committee of the State Duma, said the decision reflects the difficulty that the services are facing with the cost of modernization requirements now coming to the fore.
The cancellation was a blow to the PAK-FAs prime contractors, Sukhoi and NPO Saturn.
A senior Duma official said the Ministry of Defense expects to have to pay a $450-million to $680-million termination fee to Sukhoi and NPO Saturn.
The programs elimination, however, could benefit the two companies. The Air Force now plans to pour more money into the SU-34 and SU-35, and ramp up the upgrade of aircraft already in service which would keep both companies busy for the foreseeable future.
Especially that part about no prototype is laughable
We are hopelessly behind though, as F-22 have been in serial production for years. Though they do cost over $137 million and R&D cost was $62 billion
The crisis in the 1990's led to the cancelation of the Mig-MFI fighter which was in advanced development stage, which is why Russia fell behind. However, the PAK-FA program is the only other 5th generation program apart from the F-22 and the upcoming F-35. The Chinese, Japanese and South Koreans also have their own programs but are only at initial stages. As far as I'm aware, the western Europeans don't even have a working program.
Also, the F-22 still hasn't worked out all the problems. There are regular reports of reliability problems and it hasn't as yet been deployed in any warzone.
Here's a report from 2007 about the F-22's first deployment outside the US:
"The new US stealth fighter, the F-22 Raptor, was deployed for the first time to Asia earlier this month.
On Feb. 11, twelve Raptors flying from Hawaii to Japan were forced to turn back when a software glitch crashed all of the F-22s' on-board computers as they crossed the international date line.
The delay in arrival in Japan was previously reported, with rumors of problems with the software. CNN television, however, this morning reported that every fighter completely lost all navigation and communications when they crossed the international date line. They reportedly had to turn around and follow their tankers by visual contact back to Hawaii.
According to the CNN story, if they had not been with their tankers, or the weather had been bad, this would have been serious. CNN has not put up anything on their website yet."
The F-22 looks like another overrated gadget toy, sure stealth is nice but in another couple of years its gonna be completely useless thanks to better radars and ESM's. Frankly I'd be glad to see one of those shot down, a huge blow to the American ego.
Here's an interesting speculation on the radar coverage the Pak-Fa will have (see the centre drawing). Apart from the main radar forward, it's suppose to have a smaller rear facing radar and mini radars /sensors in the wings which increase the radar coverage to way back (almost 360 degree coverage)
A picture of a model of the wing mounted sensors/radars (the Russians don't consider them full radars)
I think they are based on the current "Epolet" upgrade system on offer for current fighter upgrades
Applied to aircraft such as the MiG-29 Fulcrum, after acquisition and targeting with its main array, Epolet conformal arrays mounted on either side of the nose facilitate missile support while allowing the aircraft to turn up 90° away from the target, enabling the Fulcrum to extend its range-to-target and ensure 'first kill' before the bogey's own missiles arrive.
And here's a new HMS system (Helmet Mounted Sight) that was developed for the Pak-Fa and the SU-35 BM.....however it was not liked by the test pilots due to it's weight and has been sent back for further development
One day the 'rain' will come and wash all the scum off the streets
The YAK-141 was the first supersonic aircraft with Vertical Take Off and Landing (VTOL) capability. Some of the solutions used are considered to have been ahead of their time.....for example, the future US F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (STVOL version) is using a copy of the YAK-141 powerplant that was practically stolen during the 1990's (see comparison below) and has also adopted some of the design concepts developed for the Yak141
Yak-141 & F-35 JSF
The Yak-141 (formerly Yak-41) was intended originally to replace Yak-38 for air defence of Kiev class carriers/cruisers, with secondary attack capabilities. Designed for carrier-borne operations as an air interceptor, close air combat, maritime and ground attack aircraft, the Yak-141 has the same multi-mode radar as the MiG-29, although with a slightly smaller antenna housed in the nose radome. It features a triplex full authority digital fly-by-wire system.
The Yak-141 continues previous Soviet V/STOL principles, combining a lift and propulsion jet with two fuselage mounted lift jets in tandem behind the cockpit, with cruise power provided by a single Tumansky R-79 jet engine. The R-79 has a rear lift/cruise nozzle which deflect down for take-off while the two lift engines have corresponding rearward vector to ensure stability. The airframe makes extensive use of composites materials, with some 28 percent by weight constructed of carbon-fibre, primarily in the tail assembly, while the remainder of the structure is mainly aluminum lithium alloys.
The project began in 1975, but was delayed by financial constraints as well as the protracted development of the engine, which meant the prototype did not fly until March 1989. This development program was cancelled due to termination of Defence Ministry funding. Yakolev OKB continued development in refined land-based and naval combat aircraft forms. Four prototypes were built, two continuing in flight testing until 1995, with the other two used for engine and structural testing.
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White Cossack: Who's the best state leader currently?
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TsarSamuil: Viktor Orban?
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Gopnik: from leader's POV, i'd say Kim Jong Un as in north korea he is not forcing any pics of himself nor making a shit ton of songs praising him unlike his dad and grandfather, but instead he is attempting to get the nation out of the shithole it is in today.
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