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Post by russkiyvolk on Oct 23, 2008 0:18:48 GMT -5
Yeah, let the USA stay in Iraq. they made a mess there, its their responsibility to clean it up. Also the longer they stay there, the more the whole world hates them. On top of that, Iraq is a giant sinkhole in the american pocket, getting bigger and bigger. The less money they have, the less power they will have in the UN, and the less arms they can provide to crazy Gruzini (aka Saakashvili). I personally see why we (Russian Federation) would take this stand. Remember, if you dont want to go through the trouble of killing someone, you can just let them die themselves.  |
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Post by pastir on Oct 23, 2008 9:25:08 GMT -5
My symphaties are with the resistance, but it is in Russia`s interest the USA stays in Iraq as long as possible to drain as much of her resources as possible. If the UN mandate will make them stay longer give it to them.
Since they have a mind to hang themselves let us by all means hand them the rope.
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Post by SlavsForever on Oct 23, 2008 15:51:42 GMT -5
Yeah, but then again, since the US isn't really paying with real money for it's war in Iraq, but loaning it from China in form of bonds - then - the world is actually paying for the US war in Iraq.
And maybe the global recession is partially caused by this.
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Post by Alexandrus on Oct 24, 2008 1:52:34 GMT -5
I hope that McCain gets elected, an Republican clone of Bush is the best way to weaken America. Although i don't think that he has a lot of spirit left in him, so if he kicks the bucket while in his term we will have Palin as president which would be even better for us.
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Post by balkannj on Oct 25, 2008 1:19:58 GMT -5
My symphaties are with the resistance, but it is in Russia`s interest the USA stays in Iraq as long as possible to drain as much of her resources as possible. If the UN mandate will make them stay longer give it to them. Since they have a mind to hang themselves let us by all means hand them the rope. But the Iraqi resistance has been essentially quelled. They used to report on their attacks and kills on U.S. soldiers or military contractors and they'd get a few a day. Now most days there is nothing at all except more Iraqis killed in car bombs and the like. The surge seemed to destroy most of the Iraqi Resistance, which was Sunni-led, by a combination of U.S. and Shi'ite death squads on Sunnis. Plus the U.S. has gained control of Iraq's resources. So what looked a mess or disaster 3 years ago, is now less so and they U.S. has their bases there and some control of Iraq's oil. The same may eventually happen in Afghanistan and the U.S. will then have Iraq and Afghanistan under its control and they will continue to move forward. Meanwhile Russia is having more problems around its borders and in the south. |
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Post by pastir on Oct 25, 2008 4:30:02 GMT -5
Yes, but the two most important effects remain. The US continues to spend several billion dollars a month on its army in Iraq adding to their dollar troubles. And as long as they have 130,000 soldiers in Iraq they have no soldiers to spare to fight on the ground elsewhere so we can be 100% sure their tough talk on places like Georgia and Ukraine is just hot air. The surge seemed to destroy most of the Iraqi Resistance, which was Sunni-led, by a combination of U.S. and Shi'ite death squads on Sunnis. What happened was the Sunnis saw they can`t fight a two front war against the Shia and the US at the same time so they struck a deal with the US to stop fighting and in return get 200 dollars a month for being part of the Awakening militia. And they used the respite in the fighting to get ridd of the foreign Wahabbi fanatics. So the resistance was more bought off than quelled. The same may eventually happen in Afghanistan and the U.S. will then have Iraq and Afghanistan under its control and they will continue to move forward. I don`t think so. The war there is intesifying, the Taliban de facto controls the south and the east. And anyways look accross the Durand line, Pakistan stil after 50 years dos not control Northern Waziristan. |
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Post by Яромip on Oct 27, 2008 15:05:27 GMT -5
I'll even apply soap to it myself ;D
EXACTLY. "The Surge" had nothing to do with it, some key figures were bribed with money and more control.
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Post by russkiyvolk on Oct 27, 2008 18:49:48 GMT -5
America is f**ked in Iraq either way. If it stays there, it will continue to be an enormous hole in the pocket, and if they leave, the US-installed government will be toppled by Islamic Fundamentalists who will certainly start launching attacks on Israel, in which case the USA will have an even bigger hole in their pocket trying to defend Israel.
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Post by TsarSamuil on Oct 29, 2008 2:53:03 GMT -5
Rus backs the us to keep the oil prices high |
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Post by pastir on Nov 7, 2008 10:56:12 GMT -5
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Post by Яромip on Nov 7, 2008 13:09:50 GMT -5
Good!
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Post by ceskybojovnik1938 on Nov 7, 2008 19:31:37 GMT -5
Thank god the Poles are coming home, hopefully Czechs will follow. I just hope they dont get sent to Georgia.
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Post by medo on Nov 26, 2008 15:31:55 GMT -5
Cowards!
If there is something I utterly despise is when one shows "bravery" by attacking others who are considered weak and poor and whom attackers consider that could easily be defeated, but when the victim prove to be a difficult bite to deal with the attacker runs away like a pussy.
I much more despise those cowards among common people who supported Hitler than Hitler himself. Yes, Hitler was mean. Yes, Hitler was evil. Yes, Hitler deserved bullet in his head. But at least Hitler was not a coward -> he took responsibility for his evil actions and killed himself (whether this is really true is irrelevant here as I only point to different characters). Many Nazis among common Germans were cowards and crawled under Soviet boots just to save their miserable and worthless lives and who supported Hitler not like Hitler for the sake of some principles (good or bad whatever) but only because they thought they could win the war regardless of the ideas and principles they fight for.
In the same way I much more despise those miserable Europeans who blindly followed the Americans in their aggression on Iraq, Afghanistan and Serbia only because they thought they would easily deal with poor and weak Iraqis or poor and weak Afghans. I despise them much, much more than the evil Americans themselves who are evil but at least are not cowards!
Death to the cowards! Too bad this scum didn't stay in Iraq they invaded together with Danes, Americans and English and faced the Iraqi justice!
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Post by TsarSamuil on Nov 26, 2008 20:54:48 GMT -5
Germany offered a counterbalance to those who were allied with england n france against them, that's all. Every other conclusion drawn is fucking yugo propaganda.
2nd, you say some sand niggers should kill slavic troops? Ookay..
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Post by boris on Nov 27, 2008 10:41:18 GMT -5
Germany offered a counterbalance to those who were allied with england n france against them, that's all. Every other conclusion drawn is fucking yugo propaganda. Yeah, and especially French troops are very active in Iraq, aren't they. |
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