El'Sukov
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Post by El'Sukov on Dec 21, 2008 5:24:47 GMT -5
Let's talk about this unusual country and its history. And, is anybody from there&
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Post by Serbian Prince on Dec 26, 2008 18:31:09 GMT -5
Country of Serbs and Croats.
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Vladimir
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Post by Vladimir on Dec 27, 2008 8:43:48 GMT -5
Catholic encyclopedia compiled in 1917: "According to the census of 22 April 1895, Bosnia has 1,361,868 inhabitants and Herzegovina 229,168, giving a total population of 1,591,036.... ....Excluding some 30,000 Albanians living in the south-east, the Jews who emigrated in earlier times from Spain, a few Osmanli Turks, the merchants, officials. and Austrian troops, the rest of the population (about 98 per cent) belong to the southern Slavonic people, the Serbs. Although one in race, the people form in religious beliefs three sharply separated divisions: the Mohammedans, about 550,000 persons (35 per cent), Greek Schismatics, about 674,000 persons (43 per cent), and Catholics, about 334,000 persons (21.3 per cent)." www.newadvent.org/cathen/02694a.htm |
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El'Sukov
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Post by El'Sukov on Dec 29, 2008 4:23:21 GMT -5
And what's about slava-muslims? They are slavs too
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Vladimir
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Post by Vladimir on Dec 29, 2008 6:52:03 GMT -5
And what's about slava-muslims? They are slavs too ...belong to the southern Slavonic people, the Serbs. Although one in race, the people form in religious beliefs three sharply separated divisions: the Mohammedans, about 550,000 persons (35 per cent) |
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Post by boris on Dec 29, 2008 7:36:13 GMT -5
Unfortunately the Catholic Encyclopedia is just a collection of many sources.
Who tells me that the person who wrote that the inhabitants of Bosnia are Serbs has no special reasons to claim that?
I don't say that it couldn't be true but I would like to know who's the direct source of that claim, there are just some names listed.
Some personal infos wouldn't be bad too.
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Post by Orao on Dec 29, 2008 13:23:56 GMT -5
And what's about slava-muslims? They are slavs too ...belong to the southern Slavonic people, the Serbs. Although one in race, the people form in religious beliefs three sharply separated divisions: the Mohammedans, about 550,000 persons (35 per cent)Things have changed since 1917. That source does not represent the facts on the ground these days. |
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Post by Vladimir on Jan 2, 2009 8:25:43 GMT -5
Unfortunately the Catholic Encyclopedia is just a collection of many sources. Who tells me that the person who wrote that the inhabitants of Bosnia are Serbs has no special reasons to claim that? I don't say that it couldn't be true but I would like to know who's the direct source of that claim, there are just some names listed. Some personal infos wouldn't be bad too. Well, I quoted "Catholic Encyclopedia" exactly because it's rather "independent" source and not Serbian one, and because that source is not very benevolent toward Serbs in general whom it call " the Greek schismatics". What I wanted to say is that no Croat or "Bosniak" can claim that this source is evil greater Serbian Chetnik propaganda or such. Don't know who they are but here's the list of 'em: VJEKOSLAV, Gesch. Bosniens von den ditesten Zeiten bis zum Verfalle des Konigreiches, Germ. tr. from the Croatian by VON BOJNICIC (Leipzig, 1885), SUPAN, Oesterreich-Ungarn in landerkunde von Europa (Vienna, Prague, and Leipzig, 1889), pt, l, Div. II; Bosnia und Herzegovina in Die osterreich.-ungar. Monarchie in Wort und Bild (Vienna, 1901) SCRWEIGERLERCHENFELD, Bosnien, das Land und seine Bewohohner (Vienna, 1879); Die Occupation Bosniens und der Herzegovina durch k. k. Truppen, from tho royal and imperial war-archives (6 pts. Vienna, 1879, 1880) T. VON ASBOTH, Bosnien und Herzegovina (4 pts., Vienna, 1888). Wissenschaftl. Mitteilungen aus Boanien und der Herzegovina, publication of the National Museum at Serajevo (13 vols., Vienna, 1893 - 1905) HORNES, Altertumer der Herzegovina und der sudl. Teile Bosnnens (Vienna, 1882) SCHNELLER, Die staatsrechtl. Stellung von Bosnien und der Herzegovina (Leipzig, 1892); Correspondence Reapecting Affairs in Bosnia and Herzegovina (Eng. Foreign Office, 1876) MILLER, Travels and Politics in the Near East (London, 1899), Statesman's Year Book, (London, 1907). Things have changed since 1917. That source does not represent the facts on the ground these days. True, the numbers changed, over the years Orthodox Christian population ceased to be the majority there. But other facts are still correct, including the origin of the population in Bosnia. |
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Post by pastir on Jan 2, 2009 9:06:00 GMT -5
That proves nothing except that Catholic Encylopedia is not reliable. You can`t quote encylopedias for truth in such a specialised thing, they are general texts and will always have some wrong info when it comes to specifics.
Anyway to argue is "the origin" of the population of Bosnia Croatian or Serbian is retarded in itself. Anybody that does that has no clue on ethnogenesis of either Serbs or Croats.
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Post by Vladimir on Jan 3, 2009 9:50:05 GMT -5
That proves nothing except that Catholic Encylopedia is not reliable. You can`t quote encylopedias for truth in such a specialised thing, they are general texts and will always have some wrong info when it comes to specifics. Anyway to argue is "the origin" of the population of Bosnia Croatian or Serbian is retarded in itself. Anybody that does that has no clue on ethnogenesis of either Serbs or Croats. If encyclopedias are not good enough for you (although I don't say that they are ideal) then please enlighten us with your expertise... |
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Post by pastir on Jan 3, 2009 11:55:19 GMT -5
I know better than to think you can be enlightened.
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Post by Orao on Jan 3, 2009 18:02:48 GMT -5
I know better than to think you can be enlightened. Hahahaha! |
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Vladimir
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Post by Vladimir on Jan 3, 2009 20:43:48 GMT -5
Similis simili gaudet
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Post by stribor on Jan 11, 2009 15:37:00 GMT -5
A couple of quick questions .. can anybody explain how come and why the last Croatian king was buried in the Bosnian town of Jajce and where did Hrvoje Vukcic Hrvatinovic reside? ..
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