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Post by CHORNYVOLK on Dec 4, 2007 12:05:57 GMT -5
(Angus Reid Global Monitor) - More Polish citizens are rejecting a plan developed by the United States to implement part of its anti-missile shield in Poland, according to a poll by CBOS. 61 per cent of respondents are opposed their country’s participation in the project, up five points since August.
In December 2002, U.S. president George W. Bush announced plans for the development of initial defence capabilities, which include ground-based and sea-based missile interceptors, as well as sensors located in space. Washington has explained the project as a means to defend the U.S. and its European allies from a potential attack by Iran or North Korea.
In January, the U.S. issued a formal request to place a missile defence radar base in the Czech Republic—in a military area southwest of Prague—as well as 10 interceptor missiles in Poland. The plan has sparked an angry reaction from the Russian government, which sees it as a threat to its own national security.
Earlier this year, Polish prime minister Lech Kaczynski of the Law and Justice Party (PiS) backed Poland’s participation in the defence plan, of which details are still under negotiation. In October, the opposition Civic Platform (PO) won Poland’s legislative election. PO leader Donald Tusk was sworn in as Poland’s new prime minister on Nov. 16.
On Nov. 27, Tusk offered to discuss the anti-missile project with Russia and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) before making a final decision on Poland’s participation. Tusk vowed to talk to American delegates "after a series of consultations with NATO and some of our neighbours."
Polling Data
Do you support or oppose the deployment of an anti-missile shield in Poland?
Nov. 2007
Aug. 2007
Jul. 2007
Support
24%
28%
28%
Oppose
61%
56%
55%
Not sure
15%
16%
17%
Source: CBOS
Methodology: Interviews with 863 Polish adults, conducted from Nov. 10 to Nov. 15, 2007. Margin of error is 4 per cent.
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Post by Alexandrus on Dec 4, 2007 12:16:49 GMT -5
Figures, i think that its common sense not to allow a foreign state to place military installments inside your country, that would only make you a potential target rather then protect you from the non-existing threat.
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Post by Alexandrus on Dec 5, 2007 11:51:15 GMT -5
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Post by krzysiek on Dec 5, 2007 17:02:33 GMT -5
I've read on a polish news website that one of the American parlamentary officials has written on his blog that US could care less about Poland, and that it's Poland who should feel blessed that US has chosen her for Anti Missle Shield installation, and therefore should be ashamed to put forward proposals of any additional perks along with the AMS. He also stated that US has already put itself on the line when it opted to accept Poland to NATO, thus exposing itself to conflict with the Russians. One cocky motherfucker.
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Post by ceskybojovnik1938 on Dec 5, 2007 19:55:51 GMT -5
Too right, not suprising though, its a typical US imperialist attitude. You should be gratefull... etc
Its a shame that Poland, Czech rep have such weak governments regarding thier decisions about NATO, EU and USA. They will never allowed to be neutral, first of all they are pulled east and now they are pulled west.
Only time will tell of thier fate when this East-West aggression is elevated.
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Post by joko on Dec 6, 2007 20:55:09 GMT -5
Too right, not suprising though, its a typical US imperialist attitude. You should be gratefull... etc Its a shame that Poland, Czech rep have such weak governments regarding thier decisions about NATO, EU and USA. They will never allowed to be neutral, first of all they are pulled east and now they are pulled west. Only time will tell of thier fate when this East-West aggression is elevated. Constant struggle for Central Europe. |
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Post by Pravoslav on Dec 7, 2007 8:27:11 GMT -5
Poland and Czech Republic could be recieving money as compensation for recieving this missile shield. I watched a documentary where the Americans pay Eastern European countries like Romania and Poland to give them land for military/CIA bases to tortue and hold suspected terrorists hostage, secretely and discreetly. Maybe their doing the same with this missile shield?
I mean, theres no other reason why these countries would accept. I can't imagine Russia going to war with Poland or Czech Republic anytime soon.
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Post by CHORNYVOLK on Dec 6, 2007 17:47:14 GMT -5
Poland does not need U.S. missile defense base - ex-PM
20:07 | 06/ 12/ 2007
WARSAW, December 6 (RIA Novosti) - Poland does not need a U.S. missile defense base, a former Polish prime minister said on Thursday.
The U.S. plans to deploy a radar station and a missile base in Central Europe purportedly to counter possible strikes from "rogue" states.
"I do not think that Poland needs a U.S. missile defense base," Leszek Miller said in an interview with RIA Novosti, adding that Poland's security was guaranteed by NATO, while a new U.S. base would not enhance its security.
He said it was also unknown what line a new U.S. administration would take on the deployment of missile defense elements in Poland, adding that there should be no haste.
Miller also said Warsaw should negotiate on missile defense not only with the United States.
"Consultations are needed with NATO, the European Union, and needless to say, Russia. The Americans themselves should also talk to Moscow," he said.
He said the deployment of a U.S. base in Poland would "increase misunderstanding, alienation and hostility on the part of Russia."
"Those would be highly negative consequences for Poland," he said.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Wednesday Washington's reply to Russia's missile defense cooperation proposals was a major setback from previous agreements.
"We have received the paper, which is a serious setback from what we were initially told. It no longer stipulates the deployment of Russian officers at the Third [missile shield] Site in the Czech Republic and Poland," Lavrov told a news conference, echoing earlier Russian comments on the issue.
Lavrov said the United States is proposing Russian military officials could visit the sites if Czech and Polish authorities do not object. "This is quite a different story, you see," he said.
The minister also said the U.S. wanted to decide on activating the missile defense sites unilaterally while previous agreements with Moscow said it was to be a joint decision.
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Post by garagulya on Dec 7, 2007 2:45:30 GMT -5
Man You F#cking straight that Poland does need a US Defense Missle system....WTF They just want to put that sh%t there so that they Can Block Russia! Man dont give me that rogue states bullshit, they see it (Russia ) as a threat, so they wanna install that crap there so that they can can cut Them ( Russians ) off, shoot down thier planes without even a notice...Jeezus the list goes on....Dude Bush thinks hes Sly or something but he is like Captian Obvious, You can read that snakes intentions from a mile away....
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Post by balkannj on Dec 15, 2007 5:37:23 GMT -5
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7144668.stmBelarus says it is ready to "play its role" as a Russian ally if the US overrides Moscow's objections and creates new missile bases in Europe. Russia has warned it may place missiles in Belarus to counter US plans for bases in Poland and the Czech Republic. Belarussian leader Alexander Lukashenko praised ties with Russia as he hosted President Vladimir Putin in Minsk. But he dismissed speculation that his country, a former Soviet state, might enter a formal union with Russia. "I was surprised your visit prompted a stir in the West," Mr Lukashenko said to Mr Putin during the Russian leader's trip to the Belarussian capital. "There's no subtext here. We're friendly allied states and I would be surprised if you didn't visit." Analysts have recently suggested that a union between Minsk and Moscow could enable President Putin to retain political influence in Russia after he relinquishes the presidency in March. Mr Putin could, in theory, become leader of the new entity created by such a union. Mr Putin has also been tipped as a candidate for prime minister in Russia after his presidential term ends. His exact plans are not yet known, though it is clear he intends to capitalise on his popularity and continue playing a central role in politics. Missile plans Mr Lukashenko welcomed Mr Putin at a ceremony in Minsk. Belarus is ready to play its role in the issues of the planned deployment in Europe of US missile defence systems," Mr Lukashenko said. He did not specify what this role would be. Last month, a senior Russian general said his country may place missiles in Belarus to counter US plans for bases in central Europe. The US says it plans to build a missile defence system by building bases in the Czech Republic and Poland that could help intercept missiles fired from countries such as Iran. Russia has however dismissed the alleged threat from Iran and said the US is targeting its territory. Moscow has repeatedly voiced alarm at Nato's eastward expansion plans, encompassing nations that were once in the Soviet Union's sphere of influence. Belarus is largely regarded as one of Russia's staunchest allies among the ex-Soviet states. However, ties between the two countries were recently strained over Russian efforts to raise the price of fuel it supplies to Belarus.
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Post by CHORNYVOLK on Dec 18, 2007 10:36:25 GMT -5
Verba, Kaktus, Krot and the fly
14:12 | 18/ 12/ 2007
MOSCOW. (RIA Novosti political commentator Andrei Kislyakov) - "The issue of confrontation with Russia, especially direct confrontation, is still, unfortunately, kept alive by our Pentagon partners," General of the Army Yuri Baluyevsky, Russia's Chief of the General Staff, said in a RIA Novosti interview in mid-December.
It all revolves around American plans to deploy a missile defense system, he said, "which Russia regards as a global strategic one."
Baluyevsky fears that, included in the American nuclear triad, such a system could boost America's early warning potential and, as a result, upset the strategic balance between the two countries.
But the available evidence suggests that the Russian nuclear deterrent has nothing to fear from the latest advances in anti-missile technology, or rather will have nothing to fear in the near future.
Russia laid the ground for its dominance in this field several decades ago, when it first developed its strategic nuclear weapons. A current program to build a modern missile defense shield, coupled with traditional counter-measures, will give Russia an effective and adequate response to overseas anti-missile programs.
In the middle of December, Russia's Air Force officially announced it was developing a fifth generation missile defense system capable of "repulsing attacks from space." This suggests Russia has opted for so-called AM point defense, able to protect particular regions or targets as required. The use of the territorial principle in combination with point configuration will help to establish a credible nation-wide anti-missile complex.
The Soviet Union and Russia, as its successor, remain the only states ever to create an effective missile defense shield.
In 1954, the Soviet Union launched a massive effort to develop a missile defense system.
By that time the KB-1, set up on Stalin's orders, had deployed a practically impenetrable air defense system around Moscow. The system, which came to be known as S-25, was designed to repulse a converging attack three times the size of British and American raid that wiped out Dresden.
Grigory Kisunko was put in charge of the project. The task was daunting. Three years before the team's first success in intercepting the nose cone of a ballistic missile in the spring of 1961, a top-level decision was made to develop a full-scale anti-missile shield for the Moscow region, called A-35.
Well before A-35 had even been tested, the goal posts were moved again, and the researchers were set the task of covering the entire country. The upshot was that the system, although "crude", was finally put in service only in the summer of 1971.
Perhaps it was the rushed nature of the job and the blurred understanding of the missile defense program that shifted the focus to helping attacking missiles overcome enemy defenses. Eventually, this enabled Russia to become the world leader in that field.
After missile defense tests in 1961, when the then Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev said bluffingly that "our missile can hit a fly in space," Kisunko decided to push research into low-cost penetration aids. These were a radar absorbing coating for nose cones, false decoys, and active jammers.
The first was called Kaktus and resembled an envelope consisting of several semi-conducting films or a cactus-like, spiked structure. Such a coating applied to the nose cone of a missile reduced its radar signature many times over.
Verba-type inflated decoys were clusters of packaged chaff made from synthetic metallic film, which were jettisoned in space. The chaff was then inflated by the air remaining in the packaging.
The active jammer Krot was designed to generate noise in response to each probing pulse of a hostile radar. Stations have been developed and tested that can jam either early warning radars or missile firing radars.
These methods are still widely employed by Russia's strategic missile forces, which marked their 48th anniversary on December 17. They also use the latest penetration aids, such as maneuvering warheads, which were tested not so long ago.
Close-range anti-missiles continue to be test-launched, carrying on a practice started in 1983. These missiles are intended to protect a region or a point target. The last two launches were made on October 11 and 30.
A vast inventory of ballistic and cruise missiles fitted out with radar penetration aids and combined with a well-organized anti-missile point defense system will enable Russia to build a modern nuclear deterrent of high effectiveness and survivability
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Post by krzysiek on Dec 21, 2007 16:09:47 GMT -5
December 21, 2007 - 7:10am WARSAW, Poland (AP) - Poland will not accept a U.S. missile defense base on its territory without a "100 percent" guarantee that the installation will serve Polish national security, the new prime minister said in an interview published Friday. The remarks by Prime Minister Donald Tusk underline a greater skepticism in Poland's approach toward the U.S. system since his government took office last month. His predecessor, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, opened talks with the U.S. early this year and firmly supported the plan. "We cannot expose ourselves to risk without having a 100 percent guarantee of our security," Tusk said in the interview with the Super Express tabloid. "If there is no such certainty, there will be no installation." His press office confirmed the comments. The U.S. says the system, which would include 10 interceptors in northern Poland as well as a radar in the Czech Republic, would counter future threats from so-called rogue states such as Iran. But Russia says such an installation so close to its territory would be hostile to its own security, and has threatened to target the base in Poland with missiles. Tusk did not specify what he meant by "security guarantees" in the interview. But Warsaw has been asking Washington to set up Patriot missiles or other installations to better protect Poland from possible Russian attack in exchange for Polish acceptance of the U.S. site. Tusk said he would "very much like to know ... who will pay for that, how much and whether it really serves our security." Tusk's Civic Platform party won Oct. 21 elections pledging, among other things, to take a more skeptical approach to the missile defense plan. He pledged to make no decision without first consulting NATO and European partners. No talks on the subject have been held since his pro-European Union government took office last month. "We are at the most important and most difficult stage of the talks," Tusk said. "That calls for patience and precision." (Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.) WARSAW, Poland (AP) - Poland will not accept a U.S. missile defense base on its territory without a "100 percent" guarantee that the installation will serve Polish national security, the new prime minister said in an interview published Friday. The remarks by Prime Minister Donald Tusk underline a greater skepticism in Poland's approach toward the U.S. system since his government took office last month. His predecessor, Jaroslaw Kaczynski, opened talks with the U.S. early this year and firmly supported the plan. "We cannot expose ourselves to risk without having a 100 percent guarantee of our security," Tusk said in the interview with the Super Express tabloid. "If there is no such certainty, there will be no installation." His press office confirmed the comments. The U.S. says the system, which would include 10 interceptors in northern Poland as well as a radar in the Czech Republic, would counter future threats from so-called rogue states such as Iran. But Russia says such an installation so close to its territory would be hostile to its own security, and has threatened to target the base in Poland with missiles. Tusk did not specify what he meant by "security guarantees" in the interview. But Warsaw has been asking Washington to set up Patriot missiles or other installations to better protect Poland from possible Russian attack in exchange for Polish acceptance of the U.S. site. Tusk said he would "very much like to know ... who will pay for that, how much and whether it really serves our security." Tusk's Civic Platform party won Oct. 21 elections pledging, among other things, to take a more skeptical approach to the missile defense plan. He pledged to make no decision without first consulting NATO and European partners. No talks on the subject have been held since his pro-European Union government took office last month. "We are at the most important and most difficult stage of the talks," Tusk said. "That calls for patience and precision." (Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.) ^whoops. Did I break the law??? ;D Source: www.wtop.com/?nid=105&sid=1149021 |
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Post by kjakrakieta on Dec 21, 2007 18:58:26 GMT -5
Good news finally. ;D time to show these American pigs we won't stand for their crap.
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Post by Orao on Dec 28, 2007 19:26:52 GMT -5
Tusk is def. better than those twins before...
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Post by CHORNYVOLK on Jan 19, 2008 13:16:40 GMT -5
Russia ready to use nuclear weapons if threatened - army chief
14:01 | 19/ 01/ 2008
MOSCOW, January 19 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's top military commander said on Saturday that the country is prepared to use its nuclear weapons to defend itself and allies in the event of a severe external threat.
The Chief of the Russian General Staff, Gen. Yury Baluyevsky, told a conference at the Academy of Military Sciences in Moscow: "We do not intend to attack anyone, but consider it necessary that all our partners clearly understand, and that no one has any doubts, that the Armed Forces will be used to protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Russia and its allies, including preventative action, and including the use of nuclear weapons."
Baluyevsky's comments come amid growing tensions between Russia and NATO over the alliance's expansion into the former Eastern Bloc, the United States' plans to deploy missile defense elements in Poland and the Czech Republic, and Moscow's increasingly assertive military stance.
Russia resumed strategic bomber patrol flights over the Pacific, Atlantic, and Arctic oceans last August, and on December 12, 2007 imposed a unilateral moratorium on the Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty, a key arms reduction pact.
Baluyevsky said that in order to protect Russia's interests, military force "can and must be used" when "all other means prove ineffective."
Programs to develop Russia's military must be closely linked to national fiscal planning, "taking into account the state's economic resources," he said.
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