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Post by medo on Feb 2, 2008 8:29:04 GMT -5
Indeed! I fully agree on this! I want to emphasize once again here that I have never been a communist and I shall never be one. I have never voted for the communists. Actually here in Croatia we do not have communists but reformed communists and they call themselves Social-democrats - SDP, but I never voted for the social-democrats either. To be honest I have never voted in my life! And this is certainly not because I am apolitical, since I am very political. It is because of the very essence of your post -> they are all the same! And I think it is a built-in defect of the so called " democracy" model. Although I was a young teenager when Yugoslavia dismembered I remember that during the communism era in Yugoslavia inside the communist party there were people with radically different opinions on economy, politics, religion etc... After collapse of the communism these ex-communists formed very different parties starting with far-left to far-right (yes, you won't believe in Croatia there are people who are ex-communists and members of far-right parties). The point is -> officially it was a mono-party system. But inside the party there were many different people, with many different opinions. Mono-party but also multi-idea system. Now we have "democracy" and multi-party system but all of them preach the same bullshit. Now we have many parties but monopoly on the idea market. And that's the reason why I do not vote! I am aware that according to Polish and Czech polls majority of people do not want American military equipment on their soil. But governments do not care! Where the hell is "democracy" now?!? Where the hell are OSCE, EU and other "concerned" organizations who cry about lack of "democracy" in Russia?!? When "democracy" works for the western interests then "democracy" is OK. When opinion of the majority does not converge with the western interests then who cares about "democracy"!?! So called "Democracy" and so called "human rights" are just a tool of the western hegemony! Slavs must be well aware of this! |
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Post by josif on Feb 2, 2008 9:13:13 GMT -5
You're totally right!
You wrote abut differences between peoples' democracy and bourgourios democracy.
Human rights watchers from West attacks only countries independent from USA administration. The countries, what have American military bases- its goverments can sleep good when fight brutal against opposition.
It is relativism. Today situation is similar like in "1984" George Orwell.
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BTW- In Poland was one of the protest marches against war in Iraq- consist of 1000 people, but TV news shows only this which was against Belarus and Lukaszenka. Both was in this same time. Second consist of 100 people.
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Post by medo on Feb 2, 2008 9:45:10 GMT -5
You're totally right! Human rights watchers from West attacks only countries independent from USA administration. The countries, what have American military bases- its governments can sleep good when fight brutal against opposition. Yes, indeed! And Georgia is one perfect example -> American puppet M. Saakashvili rules there like a dictator, he oppresses the opposition, he shuts down pro-opposition TV stations, but since he is a western puppet there is a "democracy" in Georgia. There is even a pro-western opposition which seriously complains about his rule and lack of real democracy but since Saakashvili obey his western masters, no one care about the Georgian opposition and there is "democracy". Or Arabic countries, which obey to US imperialists. No one complains about democracy there since US imperialists suck on their oil and everything is OK... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2008 10:00:59 GMT -5
Very good, medo. The Western bastards are indeed hypocrites².
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Post by josif on Feb 2, 2008 10:20:08 GMT -5
Oh shit! I don't want to think what will be in Poland when the US-Base is established. Now, we have many workers' classes who protest. ;-) Most of human must be blind, if they don't see this hypocrity. Big Brother are watching you!  |
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Post by medo on Feb 2, 2008 10:25:58 GMT -5
You're totally right! BTW- In Poland was one of the protest marches against war in Iraq- consist of 1000 people, but TV news shows only this which was against Belarus and Lukaszenka. Both was in this same time. Second consist of 100 people. They broadcasted a TV report about anti-Belarussian protest having 100 people but " accidentally" forgot to report about a anti-western protest, rallying at the same time, having 1000 people? heh Professionalism? Objectiveness? " Democratic" isn't it? The western style " democracy"! Goebbels style propaganda! Here in Croatia even state owned media, full of propaganda, are more objective than those owned by the western companies. Here in Croatia two dailies, one owned by a German and the other by Austrian company, openly interfered into recent parliamentary elections favoring the ruling party! Why the western owned media in Croatia favored the ruling party? Because it rejects a referendum on NATO accession, while the opposition wants referendum since majority of people do not want to join NATO. Even leaders of the major EU countries openly supported the ruling party! See this photomontage published on the cover of an independent satirical political magazine: feral.mediaturtle.com/look/weekly1/naslovnica.tpl?IdLanguage=7&IdPublication=1&NrArticle=17191&NrIssue=1160&NrSection=17Germany's A. Merkel carry the leader of the Croatian ruling party I. Sanader. Result of the propaganda -> the ruling party won majority of votes but still couldn't form the government. The opposition parties which ruled the country during 2000-2003 period could form the government. But then NATO General secretary Jaap de Hoop Scheffer jumped in and openly interfered in Croatian domestic affairs -> he strongly " advised" Croatian president to give mandate for government to ruling party leader. We are treated like worse than Africans! But one might even say -> we in Croatia deserve it if we allow this! |
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Post by White Cossack on Feb 2, 2008 11:23:34 GMT -5
WTF are you talking about? What unsubstantiated chronology in my post? Copy and paste??? By the way, he being a Croat has everything to do. If "A" offends you, you bash "B"? And no, I am not using Polack in a derogatory term.  Funny that you curses Russians and then complain about the use of the word "Polack", which is not even offensive in itself. |
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Post by CHORNYVOLK on Feb 2, 2008 12:01:16 GMT -5
phucking losers want to drag Ukraine into this shit along with them
Poland urges NATO countries to back Ukraine's membership bid
14:49 | 02/ 02/ 2008
KIEV, February 2 (RIA Novosti) - Poland has called on members of the North Atlantic alliance to support Ukraine's request to join the NATO Membership Action Plan (MAP), the Polish foreign minister said on Saturday.
In mid-January, Ukraine sent NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer a formal letter, requesting consideration of Ukraine's bid to launch its NATO Membership Action Plan.
"We welcome Ukraine's decision, since we believe that the European and Euro-Atlantic prospect is natural for your country. And we are asking our allies to back Ukraine's bid," Radoslaw Sikorski said in an interview with Ukrainian weekly Zerkalo nedeli.
He said the request should have been submitted much earlier and that Ukraine had missed the best possible moment for asking to join the MAP.
"It is regrettable that a letter to the NATO secretary general requesting consideration of its membership bid was not written two years ago, when the memory of the 'orange revolution' was still alive and there was a great sympathy for Ukraine," he said.
However, the minister said Ukraine had a good chance of joining the MAP at a NATO summit scheduled for early April in Bucharest.
A recent poll carried out by Ukraine's Democratic Initiatives foundation showed that over 50% of Ukrainians would vote against joining NATO. In the survey, 51.9% of respondents said they viewed NATO as an "aggressive imperialist bloc that would draw Ukraine into military conflicts."
Russia is concerned over Ukraine's drive to join NATO, saying that may seriously harm Russian-Ukrainian relations.
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Post by wiking on Feb 2, 2008 12:08:17 GMT -5
Only the first sentence pertained to you. If you read each post you'd know I'm responding to multiple posts above me and not just you. It seems you still have no understanding of the dialogue here.
I think it is best to just break contact, let bygones be bygones.
You're neither a Pole or live in the US, so you don't know the first thing about what "polack" means. Especially when you're in a mind numbing argument with a bunch of ignorant morons. It all comes into context.
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Post by White Cossack on Feb 2, 2008 12:18:57 GMT -5
You are full of shit. If you were responding to multiple posts, you should quote them individually, because I don't like to see my words quoted above an offensive post.
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Post by wiking on Feb 2, 2008 12:29:46 GMT -5
Quoting isn't necessary for the situational aware.
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Post by White Cossack on Feb 2, 2008 12:48:03 GMT -5
Quoting isn't necessary for the situational aware. No, and I noticed the answers were probably headed to someone else, but I wanted to see you say that expressly. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2008 12:59:05 GMT -5
You're neither a Pole or live in the US, so you don't know the first thing about what "polack" means. Are you a Pole actually? Somehow I have a problem to see an US Marine as Pole. And to me it seems also that your intension isn't so much to defend Poles but to censure Russians for Communism, what would be somehow typical for an American imperialist. Tell us, what do you think about American nuclear weapons in Poland? |
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Post by Raven on Feb 2, 2008 13:48:37 GMT -5
LATEST NEWS FROM THE NET... (heads up Slavs!) Poland might refuse to host US shieldSat, 02 Feb 2008 21:18:38 www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=41438§ionid=351020606The Polish Defense Minister says Premier Donald Tusk is unlikely to sign a deal with the United States to host a US anti-missile system. "I don't know whether we will be able to give all the details in legal language. I doubt it," Defense Minister Radoslaw Sikorski told the Polish state radio on Saturday. "Political decisions are being taken at the highest level but agreements require a lot of work, "he added. Sikorski said in Washington Friday he had secured an agreement in principle for aid to modernize Polish air defenses in return for Warsaw's hosting the controversial US missile shield. Amid concerns about the potential risks of hosting US missile interceptors, Warsaw has been pressing Washington to help upgrade the Polish armed forces, and notably to boost the country's air-defense system. Tusk is due to meet US President George W. Bush in Washington in March, though the precise date has not been fixed. |
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Post by pastir on Feb 2, 2008 13:54:04 GMT -5
Quoting isn't necessary for the situational aware. situational ly aware |
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Funny that you curses Russians and then complain about the use of the word "Polack", which is not even offensive in itself. 
