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Post by CHORNYVOLK on Feb 4, 2008 20:10:56 GMT -5
Russia's ambassador to NATO warns of confrontation with Poland
Feb 03, 2008 10:48 EST
Moscow (dpa) - Russia's ambassador to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) on Sunday warned of a new confrontation between Warsaw and Moscow in connection with plans by the United States to base a missile shield in Eastern Europe.
The warning from Russian ambassador Dmitri Rogosin came in reaction to statements by Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski on Friday concerning military agreements with the US in addition to a planned US deployment of 10 long-range missile interceptors in Poland.
Interpreting the Polish move as aggressive, Rogosin said Sunday that "attempts in Poland to take a confrontational approach have always ended tragically - as in the Second World War, when the country lost almost every third inhabitant."
On Friday, Polish Foreign Minister Sikorski said he was "satisfied" Washington had accepted Polish demands to help modernize its air defences, a key condition toward moving forward with the US missile shield plans.
The United States and Poland reached an agreement on the interceptors more than a year ago, but the new government under Prime Minister Donald Tusk has sought additional concessions from Washington.
"We're now hearing from Sikorski things that not even Mr Kaczynski would have brought into play - the establishment of foreign bases on Polish territory," Rogosin said, referring to Tusk's controversial rightwing predecessor Jaroslaw Kaczynski.
The United States believes a long-range missile-defence system is needed in Eastern Europe to protect against Iran's growing missile capability.
Russia has strongly objected to the basing of a system in Europe and has threatened to target the sites. Moscow believes the system would threaten its strategic nuclear arsenal.
While stressing US commitment to Poland's defence, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Friday again denied that Russia was the object of the defence shield.
"There is no way that a few interceptors in Poland and radars in the Czech Republic can degrade the thousands of nuclear warheads that the Russians have," she said
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josif
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Post by josif on Feb 5, 2008 3:32:37 GMT -5
Russian will use nuclear weappon to destroy this shield... Poland will disappear.
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Post by medo on Feb 5, 2008 7:24:39 GMT -5
US Military has supported polish army by 70 mln $, but in my country nobody know what happen with this money. :lol: I bet the West knows very well what happened to the money! One might ask if the West knows what happend to the money then why they do not tell us? The answer is in BLACKMAILING! The West needs corrupt politicians in Eastern European countries in order to control them! The West needs thieves and common criminals everywhere so that they can control country's policy by blackmailing the people in power! |
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Post by josif on Feb 5, 2008 7:35:31 GMT -5
Our goverment- his origins are from opposition in 1980-89. CIA supported this activity by 80 mln $. This people are faithful to USA.
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Post by medo on Feb 5, 2008 7:35:39 GMT -5
I have only one wish. Somebody can send our member of parliament and goverment to Siberia? Unfortunately we will have to start revolutions. Only revolutions could remove the corrupt bandits in power from their posts, since they cannot be removed with the so called " democracy" which is corrupt model itself. Those who own mass media also own the " democracy". I am afraid that all of us living in such banana countries will have to make our own efforts to put the criminals into jails. No one can help us better than ourselves. Mother Russia cannot help us with Siberia if we do not want to help ourselves! No Russian can be more Pole than the Poles himself. No Russian can be more Croat than the Croat himself. No Russian can be more Czech than the Czech himself. No Russian can be more Serb than the Serb himself. |
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Post by josif on Feb 5, 2008 17:39:45 GMT -5
Stand up, wretched of the earth
Stand up, galley slaves of hunger!!!
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Post by kjakrakieta on Feb 10, 2008 11:47:54 GMT -5
Poland feels loyal to US because they helped us during Cold War... and WWII.... so if you want to start calling us cocksuckers, id change my diction for that mr. croat. I remember you were the one who had the nerve to say we Poles are wannabe germans... anyway, only a revolutionary overthrow of every single person in the government will result in a change. So apparently the ex-soviet dogs were overthrown then kaczynski arrives, now the commies are back only to present a stupid package labeled US MISSLE DEFENSE SYSTEM wrapped in a slightly different way.
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Post by rovchanin on Feb 10, 2008 12:57:41 GMT -5
Poland feels loyal to US because they helped us during Cold War... and WWII.... so if you want to start calling us cocksuckers, id change my diction for that mr. croat. I remember you were the one who had the nerve to say we Poles are wannabe germans... anyway, only a revolutionary overthrow of every single person in the government will result in a change. So apparently the ex-soviet dogs were overthrown then kaczynski arrives, now the commies are back only to present a stupid package labeled US MISSLE DEFENSE SYSTEM wrapped in a slightly different way. Well I think all this you wrote is just a waste of time, I have only one question, do you really think that POLAND needs this missile shield? Do you really think that shield would be for "defense" of EUROPE in case of IRANI missile attack? Doesn't it sound weird? |
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Post by rovchanin on Feb 10, 2008 13:32:52 GMT -5
Poland feels loyal to US because they helped us during Cold War... and WWII.... so if you want to start calling us cocksuckers, id change my diction for that mr. croat. I remember you were the one who had the nerve to say we Poles are wannabe germans... anyway, only a revolutionary overthrow of every single person in the government will result in a change. So apparently the ex-soviet dogs were overthrown then kaczynski arrives, now the commies are back only to present a stupid package labeled US MISSLE DEFENSE SYSTEM wrapped in a slightly different way. Well I think all this you wrote is just a waste of time, I have only one question, do you really think that POLAND needs this missile shield? Do you really think that shield would be for "defense" of EUROPE in case of IRANI missile attack? Doesn't it sound weird? Well these are 2 questions LOL  |
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Post by kjakrakieta on Feb 10, 2008 18:35:29 GMT -5
you're confused and wasting your own time
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Post by gleb on Feb 11, 2008 4:09:46 GMT -5
you're confused and wasting your own time But you didn't answer him. |
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Post by joko on Feb 14, 2008 11:53:10 GMT -5
phucking losers want to drag Ukraine into this shit along with them Poland urges NATO countries to back Ukraine's membership bid 14:49 | 02/ 02/ 2008 KIEV, February 2 (RIA Novosti) - Poland has called on members of the North Atlantic alliance to support Ukraine's request to join the NATO Membership Action Plan (MAP), the Polish foreign minister said on Saturday. In mid-January, Ukraine sent NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer a formal letter, requesting consideration of Ukraine's bid to launch its NATO Membership Action Plan. "We welcome Ukraine's decision, since we believe that the European and Euro-Atlantic prospect is natural for your country. And we are asking our allies to back Ukraine's bid," Radoslaw Sikorski said in an interview with Ukrainian weekly Zerkalo nedeli. He said the request should have been submitted much earlier and that Ukraine had missed the best possible moment for asking to join the MAP. "It is regrettable that a letter to the NATO secretary general requesting consideration of its membership bid was not written two years ago, when the memory of the 'orange revolution' was still alive and there was a great sympathy for Ukraine," he said. However, the minister said Ukraine had a good chance of joining the MAP at a NATO summit scheduled for early April in Bucharest. A recent poll carried out by Ukraine's Democratic Initiatives foundation showed that over 50% of Ukrainians would vote against joining NATO. In the survey, 51.9% of respondents said they viewed NATO as an "aggressive imperialist bloc that would draw Ukraine into military conflicts." Russia is concerned over Ukraine's drive to join NATO, saying that may seriously harm Russian-Ukrainian relations. Well, if half of Ukrainians want to join NATO, then that is their decision for them to argue amongst themselves. You can't call Polish "fucking loosers" in this matter. Neither should Russia dictate to Ukraine. |
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Post by joko on Feb 14, 2008 11:56:17 GMT -5
He looked rather like a Non-Slavic Balkanian. He looked like an average Herzegovinian or Dalmatian. After all it has been genetically proved that these southern proveniences of Croatia and Bosnia do not have genetically anything to do with Slavs. Only northern provinces (e.g. Slavonia) are genetically Slavic... Aren't those southern provinces genetically Illyrian? |
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Post by medo on Feb 14, 2008 12:15:55 GMT -5
Well, if half of Ukrainians want to join NATO, then that is their decision for them to argue amongst themselves. You can't call Polish "fucking loosers" in this matter. Neither should Russia dictate to Ukraine. More than 50% not only do not want to join NATO but even consider the block as " an aggressive imperialist bloc that would draw Ukraine into military conflicts". More than half of Ukraine's adult population want the country to adopt a neutral non aligned status. news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-01/25/content_7491014.htmen.rian.ru/world/20080124/97682417.html |
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Post by medo on Feb 14, 2008 12:40:45 GMT -5
He looked like an average Herzegovinian or Dalmatian. After all it has been genetically proved that these southern proveniences of Croatia and Bosnia do not have genetically anything to do with Slavs. Only northern provinces (e.g. Slavonia) are genetically Slavic... Aren't those southern provinces genetically Illyrian? Well, you can call them whatever you want, but the fact is that southern Croats are genetically not related with the northern Croats. Northern Croats (and Serbs), i.e. those in for example Slavonia, are genetically related with Slovaks and Czechs, even Magyars (absolute domination of R1a and R1b Y-chromosome haplotypes). In the south there is an absolute domination of I1b haplotype. Speaking about Croats, ethnic Croats (i.e. people calling themselves Croats not only in Croatia but also Bosnia, Herzegovina and other parts of former Yugoslavia) are genetically very, very mixed people. Some even might say that we are not one people or that we are artificial nation ;D I am saying that not only Croats are mixed (a nation could be mixed but at least homogeneous) but Croats are mixed and at the same time very heterogeneous (i.e. people in different regions are homogeneous but the whole nation is a heterogeneous mix of genetically homogeneous provinces). But for me people/ethnos is a large group of men and women sharing the same history, tradition, language, customs, beliefs... I do not take these genetic studies too seriously since they consider only a couple of percentages of DNA information (only one chromosome and only one locus on the chromosome). Also if we take that R1a is a " Slavic marker" (not scientifically proven fact although some people use this), then the most Slavonic nation would not be Poland (or even Hungary) but instead Kyrgyzstan ;D |
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