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Post by jaropolk on Dec 10, 2007 8:42:28 GMT -5
Yet the notion of polish not being slavic is just as ridiculous as the notion that Russian is mongolian or fino-ugric (which is one of the favorite bullshit lines from ukranian ''nationalists''). You have no idea about what amount of foreign words im talking. Look it up. You ll be surprised. |
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Post by Srbopol on Dec 10, 2007 8:45:07 GMT -5
what are you on about man, are you saying that now Poles are less Poles becuase they use these words, if they went on to slaughter as many germans as could one day in rampage but still use some certain words you would still say they are not as Slavic..... maybe things could be changed but to behonest Polish sounds ok to me, still reconisable as a slavic language..... Language is impotant use but until Poles are actually speaking german only in dont see your point.....
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Post by jaropolk on Dec 10, 2007 8:55:50 GMT -5
what are you on about man, are you saying that now Poles are less Poles becuase they use these words, if they went on to slaughter as many germans as could one day in rampage but still use some certain words you would still say they are not as Slavic..... maybe things could be changed but to behonest Polish sounds ok to me, still reconisable as a slavic language..... Language is impotant use but until Poles are actually speaking german only in dont see your point..... The point is not in killing others, its about preserving the heritage of the ancestors. Beeing strong is not killing but creating. Even a child wants to draw its own picture, not to copy someone elses. There really is no golden midway here. No compromises. This is what nationalism is about. Going through till the end. |
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Post by Alexandrus on Dec 10, 2007 10:20:56 GMT -5
loads of people have foriegn words from somewhere, i dont feel Polski si so bad at all, just different, but ofcourse many german influensed words but so what, its just a echo of previous wars and influences which hold no grounds now, is some words used in parts of balkans that are maybe of turkic influense but try find some people who use them who like Turks....lol..... so either way dosnt matter, no point changing to much now..... YOU JUST COULDNT BE WRONGER. LANGUAGE IS EVERYTHING A NATION HAS! IF WE DONT SPEAK THE LANGUAGE, WHAT POINT IS THERE MAKING A SLAVIC FORUM? THROUGH WHAT BESIDES LANGUAGE ARE THE SLAVS CONNECTED? BLOOD?  LANGUAGE IS CRUCIAL. IT DETERMINS THE WHOLE WAY OF THINKING. LOOK AT THE ENGLISH, THE LIVED IN CONDITIONS VERY SIMILAR TO OTHER GERMANIC PEOPLES IN THE MIDDLEAGES, BUT BECAUSE OF THE LANGUAGE THEY ARE OUTSIDERS OF ALL GERMANS NOW. You will be surprised how gentically Russians and Poles are close. There was a topic on the forum a long time ago, search the forums. |
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Post by daver2 on Dec 10, 2007 10:39:11 GMT -5
You make me laugh you childish ignorant. The least Slavic language, haha. You are PATHETIC. I m sorry. I really am. But its true. Polish is the least Slavic language. When i hear words like HANDEL, VALISKA(french), DZIEKOVAC(danken), WEDROVAC(wandern),PILKA(latin), OPINIJA, FREKWENCIA, CEBULA(zwiebel) and so on untill infinity.........................................i ask my self how many actual Polish words are there left? O, one more...this one reaaly pisses me off....SZUKAC (SUCHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Come on, thats really too much. A german word for such a simple action....WHY? You really are. Polish and its borrowed words are nothing in comparison with Russian and its French words and phrases. I'm learning Russian currently and every time I hear French borrowings I puke. That's why if I were you i would say Russian is the least Slavic language  |
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Post by TheGoddess on Dec 10, 2007 10:58:12 GMT -5
You make me laugh you childish ignorant. The least Slavic language, haha. You are PATHETIC. I m sorry. I really am. But its true. Polish is the least Slavic language. When i hear words like HANDEL, VALISKA(french), DZIEKOVAC(danken), WEDROVAC(wandern),PILKA(latin), OPINIJA, FREKWENCIA, CEBULA(zwiebel) and so on untill infinity.........................................i ask my self how many actual Polish words are there left? O, one more...this one reaaly pisses me off....SZUKAC (SUCHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Come on, thats really too much. A german word for such a simple action....WHY? Okay now, that is really twisted logic. Least Slavic language, my arse. Come on, that seemed like you cannot think of anything better in the argument. All Slavic languages have loan words. |
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Post by Alexandrus on Dec 10, 2007 11:03:11 GMT -5
I m sorry. I really am. But its true. Polish is the least Slavic language. When i hear words like HANDEL, VALISKA(french), DZIEKOVAC(danken), WEDROVAC(wandern),PILKA(latin), OPINIJA, FREKWENCIA, CEBULA(zwiebel) and so on untill infinity.........................................i ask my self how many actual Polish words are there left? O, one more...this one reaaly pisses me off....SZUKAC (SUCHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Come on, thats really too much. A german word for such a simple action....WHY? Okay now, that is really twisted logic. Least Slavic language, my arse. Come on, that seemed like you cannot think of anything better in the argument. All Slavic languages have loan words. Exactly. |
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Post by jaropolk on Dec 10, 2007 11:41:15 GMT -5
Okay now, that is really twisted logic. Least Slavic language, my arse. Come on, that seemed like you cannot think of anything better in the argument. All Slavic languages have loan words. Exactly. But no were near as Polish.  >:(WTF anyway, if there are different Slavic languages there must be the least pure of them. And the least pure, AND as a consequence the least Slavic is Polish FULL STOP. TRY FUCKING READING ALL OF THE CONTEXT! |
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Post by jaropolk on Dec 10, 2007 11:43:49 GMT -5
I m sorry. I really am. But its true. Polish is the least Slavic language. When i hear words like HANDEL, VALISKA(french), DZIEKOVAC(danken), WEDROVAC(wandern),PILKA(latin), OPINIJA, FREKWENCIA, CEBULA(zwiebel) and so on untill infinity.........................................i ask my self how many actual Polish words are there left? O, one more...this one reaaly pisses me off....SZUKAC (SUCHEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Come on, thats really too much. A german word for such a simple action....WHY? You really are. Polish and its borrowed words are nothing in comparison with Russian and its French words and phrases. I'm learning Russian currently and every time I hear French borrowings I puke. That's why if I were you i would say Russian is the least Slavic language daver2 poshel nahuy! zaebal slova peredergivat! I zadevaet eto tebia tak silno, potomu chto znaesh chto ja prav. |
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Post by daver2 on Dec 10, 2007 12:07:18 GMT -5
You really are. Polish and its borrowed words are nothing in comparison with Russian and its French words and phrases. I'm learning Russian currently and every time I hear French borrowings I puke. That's why if I were you i would say Russian is the least Slavic language daver2 poshel nahuy! zaebal slova peredergivat! I zadevaet eto tebia tak silno, potomu chto znaesh chto ja prav. Oh please man, first - you don't know anything about Slavic languages or you just pretend to be the omnipotent of your own ignorance. Second - ban this guy Moderators, or try to translate these bad words he wrote in Russian. |
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Post by jaropolk on Dec 10, 2007 12:16:32 GMT -5
daver2 poshel nahuy! zaebal slova peredergivat! I zadevaet eto tebia tak silno, potomu chto znaesh chto ja prav. Oh please man, first - you don't know anything about Slavic languages or you just pretend to be the omnipotent of your own ignorance. Second - ban this guy Moderators, or try to translate these bad words he wrote in Russian. Why do you think I know nothing about Slavic languages? Yes I know only one Slavic language, but i m not blind. And can think clearly. P.S Dont play with words. |
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Post by Alexandrus on Dec 10, 2007 12:19:09 GMT -5
daver2 poshel nahuy! zaebal slova peredergivat! I zadevaet eto tebia tak silno, potomu chto znaesh chto ja prav. Oh please man, first - you don't know anything about Slavic languages or you just pretend to be the omnipotent of your own ignorance. Second - ban this guy Moderators, or try to translate these bad words he wrote in Russian. He said ''Fuck you daver2, stop playing with words. It hurts you so much because you know i'm right. |
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Post by TheGoddess on Dec 10, 2007 12:47:30 GMT -5
Oh please man, first - you don't know anything about Slavic languages or you just pretend to be the omnipotent of your own ignorance. Second - ban this guy Moderators, or try to translate these bad words he wrote in Russian. Why do you think I know nothing about Slavic languages? Yes I know only one Slavic language, but i m not blind. And can think clearly. P.S Dont play with words. Wait, wait, wait. You only know ONE Slavic language and go around comparing and claiming that you know which one of them is the least pure. You just totally admitted your own ignorance. Good way to dig yourself a hole. And by the way, nobody is twisting your words. We all know the context. You just can't claim you're an absolute expert at linguistics when you are not. Do you even speak Polish? I take it as a no. You'd have to know it fluently to know its complexity and etymology. Don't go around flaming respected members here, that's unbecoming. |
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Post by jaropolk on Dec 10, 2007 13:35:14 GMT -5
Why do you think I know nothing about Slavic languages? Yes I know only one Slavic language, but i m not blind. And can think clearly. P.S Dont play with words. Wait, wait, wait. You only know ONE Slavic language and go around comparing and claiming that you know which one of them is the least pure. You just totally admitted your own ignorance. Good way to dig yourself a hole. And by the way, nobody is twisting your words. We all know the context. You just can't claim you're an absolute expert at linguistics when you are not. Do you even speak Polish? I take it as a no. You'd have to know it fluently to know its complexity and etymology. Don't go around flaming respected members here, that's unbecoming. It makes no sense what you re saying. There is no need to be an expert to see the obvious. You dont have a master degree in math? Then shut up and dont say 2+2 is 4====thats your logic. If you demand total knowledge go tell everybody on the forum to stop discussing politics for example. Respected member? Does saying the admins should ban someone, just because you cant deal with criticism, deserve respect? |
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Post by TheGoddess on Dec 10, 2007 13:48:18 GMT -5
Except you are the one who's trying to act like an expert, making super smart hypotheses. Tell you what, just because you know a couple of words in a language that happen to be loan words or of foreign origin does not mean that the language is the least pure Slavic language. You would need to know the etymology and all the Slavic languages to make such a stupid generalisation.
Besides, what exactly were you trying to prove? Almost all languages are under the influence of especially the neighbouring languages that surround them. New words join the official language a lot of the time and neologisms are formed, old words become archaic and get replaced losing their frequency, loan words are used and taken over from other languages where they had been in common use.
So what exactly were you trying to prove. It sounded like "Oh, you're less Slavic because your language is less pure than mine! Ha, gotcha!" Says the linguist and does a little happy dance.
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