Post by TsarSamuil on Apr 11, 2011 14:54:34 GMT -5
Terror Attack: Deadly metro blast shocks Belarus capital Minsk.
RussiaToday on Apr 11, 2011
Belarus Prosecution office says Minsk subway blast was a terror attack, launches criminal investigation. Meanwhile, the death toll grows in Belarus after an explosion at a metro station. 11 people confirmed dead, 126 hospitalised.
Minsk metro blast victim dies in hospital, death toll at 12.
The death toll in the Minsk metro blast rose to 12 as one of the victims died in hospital early on Tuesday, the country's security service said in a statement.
The Belarusian KGB also said the most likely perpetrator of the attack has already been identified.
The blast was officially classed as terrorism as the criminal case was launched.
More than 120 people were injured when a bomb exploded as a train stood at the Oktyabrskaya metro station at 5.55 pm (14:55 GMT) on Monday. The bomb was planted under a bench at the metro's only interchange station, the city's busiest.
MINSK, April 12 (RIA Novosti)
Last Edit: Apr 12, 2011 0:27:01 GMT -5 by TsarSamuil
Aha, ofc it wouldn't take long for the US blaming someone else for the crime that they did themselves! What opposition would admit for massmurdering their own people at random?? This has to be someone with "nothing to loose" = USA/CIA!
Experts split over reasons behind Minsk blast.
RT.com 11 April, 2011, 21:54
Following Monday’s tragedy in Minsk metro, RT spoke to several political experts, and all of them were uncertain about the exact reasons behind the terrorist attack.
Minsk’s domestic and foreign policy is not likely to have inspired an external terrorist attack, says political analyst Irina Kobrinskaya, who talked live to RT minutes after a deadly blast occurred in the Minsk metro.
“This is unusual for Belarus,” Kobrinskaya stated. “It could’ve been just an accident, or it could have been a different reason, but terrorism is not typical for Belarus, that is clear.”
Fred Weir from the Christian Science Monitor suspects political tensions inside Belarus may have led those behind the metro explosion to turn to terrorism.
“There’s been constant talk of President Lukashenko having rigged the December presidential election,” Weir said.
“He put down demonstrations and protests rather brutally, arresting over 600 people. So if this is the internal opposition to Lukashenko turning to these kind of tactics, it would represent a radical departure from the peaceful means of protest that they had used in the past. That may suggest internal political dissenters going over to terrorist tactics.”
“I have a feeling that this public discontent, which has been brewing in Belarusian society since the controversial December election, will find various ways of manifesting itself,” said political analyst Sergey Strokan. “We can’t rule out that there may be an unknown and obscure group of radicals [behind the attack]. It takes just three to five people and a basic knowledge of chemistry and engineering.”
Meanwhile Dennis Sammut, executive director of the Links think tank, is doubtful that today’s explosion could be connected to the domestic situation in the country, though Belarus has not been immune to such attacks in the past.
“Belarus is not an obvious target,” said Sammut.
“I would dismiss it is as somehow being connected to the domestic political situation in Belarus,” he said. “The domestic situation moves in a different way there, and we have never seen examples of such violence. It could be connected to something very specific.”
“In my view, behind the attack is a radical extremist group that is thinking of imposing a new regime on Belarus and ousting Mr. Lukashenko,” suggested the deputy editor of the Russian newspaper Zavtra, Aleksandr Nagorny. “I consider it as part of a general destabilization that we actually see throughout the world.”
Security expert Igor Khokhlov believes the Belarusian security services will have to reconsider their counterterrorism strategy, because Lukashenko has boasted for years that due to his regime the Belarusian people can feel secure.
“The terrorists have picked up the perfect target,” he said. “This underground station is the station where people change between two lines in the Belarusian underground. And this underground line is exactly under the presidential palace of Lukashenko, the seat of his power. They have found a perfect target to show that Lukashenko does not control the situation in the republic.”
Post by TsarSamuil on Apr 12, 2011 10:52:59 GMT -5
Several Arrested in Belarus over Minsk Metro Blast.
Novinite.com World | April 12, 2011, Tuesday
The Belarus authorities have made several arrest in the aftermath of the Monday bombing in the Minsk metro that killed 12 people and injured 126.
The police have compiled images of two men suspected of the attack. The Belarus Deputy Prosecutor was quoted on state TV as saying that several people had been arrested, without giving a number or any other details.
The radio-controlled bomb, packed with nails and ball bearings, exploded at Oktyabrskaya station Monday evening. It occurred just before 6 pm, during rush hour. The station is one of the busiest in Minsk, linking the city's two metro lines and it is located about 100 meters from the president's main office and residence.
It is believed the incident is a terrorist attack with Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko stating it may have been "a gift from abroad" to destabilise the country. Lukashenko further said the attack may be linked to an explosion during Independence Day celebrations in 2008, in which 50 people were hurt. That crime was never solved.
Lukashenko ordered the police to "turn everything inside out" in their search for the bomber or bombers.
Russian investigators are scheduled to arrive Wednesday to assist Belarus in the search for the culprits.
Security forces are now conducting checks on all ammunition and explosives held by Belarusians, whether legally or illegally, according to local police reports, since Belarus was littered with ammunition after World War II.
Women cross themselves during a public prayer for the victims of terrorist bomb attack in an orthodox church in Minsk, Belarus. Photo by EPA/BGNES
Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko (C-R) visits the site of explosion at the Oktyabrskaya underground station in Minsk, Belarus 11 April 2011. EPA/BGNES
Last Edit: Apr 12, 2011 11:25:51 GMT -5 by TsarSamuil
Post by TsarSamuil on Apr 12, 2011 12:49:35 GMT -5
Are Chechens "super terrorists" or are they aided by CIA branch that gives training n takes a role to guide the terrorist attacks? Because Belarus is just across the border, that CIA branch got involved with Belarus and that's why it looks similar to attacks done in Russia.
I wondered before about what Kadyrov said, no more, he was 100% truthful, CIA/USA is at war with Slavdom, and Putin is useless who can't even point the finger at the agressors, while little Kadyrov does! Embarrasing!
Russia's Chechen chief blames CIA for violence.
MOSCOW | Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:27pm EDT
(Reuters) - The Kremlin-backed chief of Russia's turbulent Chechnya region said his forces were fighting U.S. and British intelligence services who want to split the country apart, according to an interview published Thursday.
Former rebel-turned-Moscow-ally Ramzan Kadyrov said in comments to Zavtra newspaper reprinted on his official website that he had seen the U.S. driving license of a CIA operative who was killed in a security operation he led.
Chechen authorities have previously said insurgents following the radical Wahabist form of Islam receive support from international Islamist groups sympathetic to al-Qaeda, but have not accused the West of instigating violence.
"We're fighting in the mountains with the American and English intelligence agencies. They are fighting not against Kadyrov, not against traditional Islam, they are fighting against the sovereign Russian state," he said.
The West sought to attack both Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and the country as a whole by targeting the country's weakest regions, Kadyrov said in the comments republished prominently on www.chechnya.gov.ru.
Kadyrov was appointed by Moscow as a bulwark against separatist rebels in the mainly Muslim province, but rights activists say he flouts federal laws and is himself responsible for much of the violence that has grown in recent months.
"The West is interested to cut off the Caucasus from Russia. The Caucasus - a strategic frontier of Russia. If they take away the Caucasus from Russia, it's like taking away half of Russia."
Many Chechens have emigrated to Europe, Turkey, and Georgia and some have been recruited as insurgents, said Kadyrov.
"Now they strike a blow against Putin and Russia. Chechnya, Dagestan are weak, vulnerable parts of the Russian state," Kadyrov said, referring to the neighboring region, which has also been rocked by violence.
Asked if he was saying there were signs of CIA and MI6 participation in the violence, he said "Of course," he had seen evidence of their direct involvement in an operation he led.
"There was a terrorist Chitigov, he worked for the CIA. He had U.S. citizenship...When we killed him, I was in charge of the operation and we found a U.S. driving license and all the other documents were also American," he said.
(Reporting by Conor Sweeney; Editing by Elizabeth Fullerton)
Post by TsarSamuil on Apr 12, 2011 14:42:24 GMT -5
CSTO calls for strengthening collective rebuff to terrorism.
MOSCOW, April 12 (Itar-Tass) - Secretary General of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) Nikolai Bordyuzha called for stepping up the collective rebuff to terrorism, in connection with the Minsk subway bombing, in which innocent people died.
"A grave crime has been committed against citizens of our states. Such inhuman acts cannot be justified," Bordyuzha said, "I'm conveying my heartfelt condolences to the relatives of the victims, and sympathy and support to the injured persons, as well as my solidarity with the Belarussian people."
"The tragedy that has occurred has again shown the utmost improtance of the world community's fight against extremism, and the necessity to further step up the collective rebuff to its most monstrous manifestation - terrorism," the CSTO chief said.
On Tuesday, the Permanent Council of CSTO envoys held an emergency meeting over the Minsk subway station Oktyabrskaya bombing.
Post by TsarSamuil on Apr 13, 2011 11:41:02 GMT -5
Very good, but the real criminal masterminds, CIA, won't get caught...it is their tactic to train foreigners to carry out their operations so if caught CIA will deny any involvement. This isn't the first terrorist attack in Belarus, and this is too big to be a lone madman...lone madman, the oldest worst excuse in history..
Don't want to whine, but why not post story instead of link? I mean clicking on this thread is clicking once already, n then one has to click on your link too...
Belarusian President Aleksandr Lukashenko claims the metro bombing case has been solved, two days after the terrorist attack, which claimed 12 lives.
Lukashenko said that the detained confessed to Monday’s attack and also the bombing on Independence Day in Minsk in 2008 and the bombing in Vitebsk in 2005.
“The security forces and the police needed only one day for such a brilliant operation to get those who carried out the attack, without any extra noise and chatter” Lukashenko said on Wednesday at a meeting with the country’s top security officials.
The president ordered law enforcers to question the political opposition leaders in connection with the blast. “I ordered to investigate all the announcements of these ‘political actors’. Maybe these actors of the so-called ‘fifth column’ will open their cards and point at those who had ordered [the attack]."
"It's necessary to interrogate every one of them, regardless of all the wails and moans of foreign sufferers…The faces of those villains should be revealed to people" added the Belarusian leader.
Lukashenko also ordered to suppress any signs of panic in Belarus and ordered law enforcers to reveal and uncover all the unregistered arms and explosives in the country and jail the owners within one month. According to the president, it is the only way to avoid terror attacks.
The investigation now has all the evidence against the three suspects detained in Minsk, all three have confessed to Monday’s attack, the Interior Minister of Belarus Anatoly Kuleshov told journalists in Minsk on Wednesday. “We have gathered all the evidence against the suspects and their involvement in the blast in Minsk. All three have admitted their guilt” said Kuleshov.
Earlier on Wednesday, the head of the investigation, Andrey Shved, told the press that there were two detained suspects. They are from one of Belarus’ regions and that the two knew each other.
“It is well seen on the CCTV record that he arrives to Kupalovskaya station, transfers to Oktyabrskaya and stays there for a while, and then he puts the bag on the bench and leaves the station, moving his hands in his coat pocket. After that the blast happened," said Shved.
CCTV cameras captured the moment when a man, allegedly one of the detained, arrived at the station and left a bag, just before the blast.
There is no analog to the explosive used in the terror attack on the Minsk Metro, the Chief of the Federal Security Forces of Belarus Vadim Zaitsev said at his briefing in Minsk on Wednesday. “It was a special explosive which is of a particular interest to experts” concluded Zaitsev. “We haven’t found anything similar in the database of any country”.
Meanwhile, Belarus is mourning the victims of the bombing. The line of the Minsk metro that was closed to the public right after explosion was reopened on Wednesday, under the order of President Lukashenko. People are lighting candles and laying flowers at the entrance to Oktyabrskaya station. Trains pass the station without stopping.
The first funerals took place in Belarus on Wednesday.
More than 150 of the 200 injured remain in hospital.
Suspect says he gets pleasure from human suffering – police source
According to a source quoted in an Interfax report, after watching the CCTV footage for the last few days from all subway stations investigators ascertained that one of the suspects regularly came out of the metro at Frunsenskaya station.
The station was put under observation. When they noticed the man who looked similar to the suspect on CCTV, the investigators followed him to his house and detained him.
During the interrogation, the man allegedly confessed that he carried out his first terror attack back in September 2005 in Vitebsk. After not being caught he was then conscripted into the Belarusian Army and reportedly moved to Minsk from Vitebsk after his Army service term. He claims he found on the internet instructions on how to make a more powerful explosive device, and made it himself. He then allegedly detonated the device on Independence Day in Minsk in 2008.
According to the suspect, he escaped the obligatory fingerprinting of 2008, which all males in the country were required to undergo following the blast.
According to the source, the detained has already talked to psychologists. “The psychologists say the detained is mentally fit. He explained his actions were because of the satisfaction he gets from people suffering. The psychologists have compared the detained with a famous fictional character Dr. Hannibal Lecter” said the source. “The detained said that he was acting alone and does not put forward any political motives.”
Hereby, the Federal Security Service of Belarus has confirmed its version of a psychologically-ill person being behind Monday’s metro blast. ”One of the versions we put forward yesterday has proved to be true. There are people not only mentally ill, but also ill-ambitioned” the Chief of the Federal Security Forces of Belarus Vadim Zaitsev said at his briefing in Minsk on Wednesday.
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Post by TsarSamuil on Apr 13, 2011 12:34:28 GMT -5
Lukashenko indignant at EU willingness to impose sanctions now.
MINSK, 13 April (BelTA) – Europe discussing imposition of economic sanctions against Belarus at a time when the country mourns over terrorist attack victims is a dance on the grave, said President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko at a government session on 13 April to discuss the progress in the Minsk metro bombing investigation.
“It has evolved into explicit blasphemy. The whole nation is in tragedy, people mourn over the victims, while our so-called European partners in Strasbourg talk about some human rights. Moreover, our Belarusian fifth column politicians, who have fled there, call for the sanctions against their own people,” said the President.
“They could have waited till the mourning is over and till we bury those killed, at least,” he added.
A regular session of the Foreign Affairs Council of the European Union was held in Strasbourg on 12 April. The session’s agenda included situation in Libya, Middle East, South Caucasus, and Belarus, as well as human rights observance.
Belarusian prosecutors have released several shots from a metro surveillance camera showing the man they suspect of planting and detonating Monday’s deadly bomb.
The man was carrying a heavy bag, which he left at the metro station. Then he walked away, waited at a safe distance for more people to gather and triggered the bomb with a radio signal, Deputy Prosecutor General Andrey Shved told journalists.
So far, Belarusian police have detained five people over the bombing. Two of them, including the man believed to be the bomber, are in custody.
The bomb attack at Oktyabrskaya metro station killed 12 people and wounded some 200. Two days after the blast, Belarusian President Aleksandr Lukashenko announced that the case had been “solved”.
Post by TsarSamuil on Apr 15, 2011 16:15:16 GMT -5
Foreign Ministry: Another attempt by western media to pervert the facts exposed.
MINSK, 15 April (BelTA) - Another attempt by a western media organization to falsify the real situation has been exposed, spokesman for the Foreign Ministry Andrei Savinykh said in his commentary in view of the Associated Press’ reference to the statement of head of the UN Working Group on the Use of Mercenaries José del Prado
“We have received a comprehensive answer from the head of the UN Working Group on the Use of Mercenaries José del Prado what exactly he told the Associated Press reporter. It has been established that the UN official told the American journalist that he had no information and therefore could not confirm the presence of any Belarusian mercenaries in Libya. The statement was clear-cut and unambiguous. Similar confirmations came in from the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights,” Andrei Savinykh’s commentary says.
The fact can be viewed as a proof that the Associated Press is a hired propaganda outlet and tool. It seems this appraisal may be referred to other western media that circulated publications on the subject.
“As we can see, western journalists effortlessly step over the conventional democratic standards when it is convenient to them and in line with the interests of their sponsors,” Andrei Savinykh stressed.
Post by TsarSamuil on Apr 18, 2011 14:19:22 GMT -5
Lukashenko: The blast in Minsk metro is not a regular thing.
MINSK, 18 April (BelTA) – A terrorist attack in the Minsk subway is not a regular thing, Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko told reporters on 16 April.
“I am very much concerned about the future. It is important for me to know whether this crime is systemic or it is really almost an incident. And not long ago I said we are lucky that this is not a regular happening. We do not have religious or ethnic conflicts in the country. There is no ground for it here. This is what is important for me,” Alexander Lukashenko stressed.
“Is there an odor of politics here? I do not want to flurry out fifth column, but very soon we will make some materials public. There is no need to shout that we are pressuring the opposition. We will strike at those who are guilty, at those on whom we have got enough evidence. I have already said we would not have the fifth column here,” the head of state noted.
Commenting on the allegations of the country’s authorities having hands in it, Alexander Lukashenko said: “What an idiot one should be to cross everything that has been done out. And I have done a lot too to make life in Belarus calm and normal. Today it is viewed as a brand of our country. I would like to reiterate: we have been stable and calm and we would be whatever it takes. We have no grounds for terrorist attacks,” the Belarusian leader concluded.
Lukashenko calls for tough measures after Minsk subway explosion.
MINSK, 6 May (BelTA) – There is a need for tough measures to prevent repeat of such cases as the explosion in the Minsk metro, President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko siad at a meeting on the progress in the investigation into the explosion at the Oktyabrskaya metro station.
“I want to draw the attention of heads of all agencies, organizations, factories, plants: install order! Working hours should be given to work. No loafing about, etc.,” the head of state said.
Addressing the State Secretary of the Security Council, Leonid Maltsev, Alexander Lukashenko said: “We have agreed that decisions should be taken immediately regarding cases of mismanagement and disorder in the public sector, even private companies." According to the President, the investigation into the terrorist act and other criminal cases has shown weaknesses in the Belarusian society. “This is not good: when we started looking into the case we saw that the man had a chance to leave work unimpeded, pick up some bolts and other fixtures, and go about his business, including testing bombs in the woods. And nobody had seen this!” the head of state said. “We should put an end to it,” the President demanded. “We have the Soviet experience of Andropov times. Like it someone or not, but this is how we should make everyone work,” the President added.
According to the President, there is another negative tendency in the society. “We work without making much effort, half the work time. We give half what we should, and we want to live well. It does not happen this way,” said the head of state.
“Please make everybody work so that we would not have to deal with another situation, so that we would not run around again calling for measures to restore order in the society,” stressed Alexander Lukashenko.
According to the President, the preliminary results of inspections exposed flaws not only in law enforcement. “Educational institutions and enterprises have much more mismanagement and disorder than necessary. In particular, inspections in schools revealed a lot of failures in the organization of educational process, in holding cultural events, handling ammunition or chemical agents. Facilities that pose threat to life and health of people are located in close proximity to schools,” said the President. Alexander Lukashenko said that he instructed to inspect all educational institutions, including secondary schools, and also enterprises.
“The analysis of the situation at the plant where the accused person worked attests to bad management, protectionism, indifference, poor personnel and ideological work. The aforesaid as a whole makes a favorable environment for asocial views and ideas,” the President believes.
In his words, the country has everything necessary, from a well-developed legal framework, cutting-edge e-technologies and telecommunications systems to special units, to provide every condition for people to feel calm and secured any time and in any situation. “We have developed the whole system of necessary measures and regulatory framework, so why does this system fail to operate smoothly?” the head of state wandered. He also added that wise and rational decisions are needed not only in the investigation of the crimes but also in molding an efficient system of security measures.
The President reiterated that the Minsk metro bombers had been brought relevant charges, and a number of criminal cases had been opened against several executives who should have prevented the tragedy.
Addressing the meeting participants, Alexander Lukashenko noted that some issues regarding this dreadful act of terrorism still remain open, but the main thing, according to him, is to prevent such crimes from happening again.
TsarSamuil: Medicines aren't allowed to be sold on the market without a 15 year trial period, to determine short n long term effects. Sputnik just turned 1 year, others not even that, just months, how can we determine long term effects without the data from long term
Aug 24, 2021 11:22:20 GMT -5
TsarSamuil: exposure? Does anyone have a time machine to go 14 years or so into the future n come back n say whether we have good vaccines? Fear makes world abandon its own standards..Besides, vaccines for other illnesses that have been developed for YEARS actually
Aug 24, 2021 11:23:40 GMT -5
TsarSamuil: help. These covid vaccines are literally SHIT, why else do they demand you take 1, 2 n now 3 shots? The problem is also a disease becomes resilient if u administer a weak vaccine that doesn't do the job proper. Allow illness to survive just makes it strong
Aug 24, 2021 11:25:04 GMT -5
TsarSamuil: instead if we go by the book, we should all wait for a really good vaccine to take out the illness for good. Now...we may never get rid of it..but understandably the world economy has a hard time dealing with lock downs, but that is just needless panic
Aug 24, 2021 11:27:06 GMT -5
TsarSamuil: why Swe had fared well with country not being locked down? Because they are cold people, keeping distance was the thing before covid-19 was ever heard of, I hope world doesn't become like that, but some could use a little common sense n change in behavior.
Aug 24, 2021 11:29:12 GMT -5
TsarSamuil: It's no wonder covid hits so many Arabs in the country, stupid bastards..
Aug 24, 2021 11:29:38 GMT -5
TsarSamuil: If I go to H&M a new shirt, if an Arab wants to buy a pair of pants, not only is his whole family along, his friends, even his freaking grandmother is along n all chattering along in a big dumb group of ignorance..
Aug 24, 2021 11:33:05 GMT -5
Boro: Thx for the response. I'm not sure... It seems the vaccines work, at least people aren't dying of Covid. Those who get ill have a problem, it's not "just a flu". Maybe it's from a chinese laboratory, who knows...
Aug 24, 2021 13:46:55 GMT -5
Boro: I agree regarding Arabs..
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Boro: Be glad, Sweden isn't overpopulated.
Aug 24, 2021 14:11:49 GMT -5
TsarSamuil: true, vaccines do help somewhat, maybe better than nothing..I hope in 2022 we can come out of this nightmare..
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Boro: Horrible times, indeed.
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