Post by Krzywousty on May 28, 2010 14:53:36 GMT -5
Serbia should never accept Kosovo Independence... unless they partitions Kosovo and the Serbs get to gaint the field of blackbirds, otherwise heck no....it sunfortunate that Poland has accepted Kosovo independence, however i do believe Kaczynski (RIP) stated that he will have no embassy put there and that the decision was a bit too hasty for his liking which was decided by Tusk. The people of Poland however are with the Serbs when it comes to the question of Kosovo...as far as I know anyways.
" I tak Polaku, druchu, bracie [...] podajze reke kozakowi i serce swe do niego przychyl, i razem w imie Chrystusowe odbudujemy raj nasz cichy." - Taras Szewczenko
Duke Leszek the White explained in a long letter to the Pope that neither he nor any self-respecting Polish knight could be induced to go to the Holy Land, where, they had been informed, there was no wine, mead, or even beer to be had.
KOSOVSKA MITROVICA -- The Serb Progressive Party (SNS) has won the most votes in the local elections held on Sunday in Kosovska Mitrovica.
The Democrats and the Socialists won a majority in the municipality of Novo Brdo, according to the State Election Commission (RIK).
On the state-level, SNS is the leading opposition party, while DS and SPS are part of the ruling coalition.
According to the preliminary results in Kosovska Mitrovica, opposition DSS and ruling DS trail SNS.
The commission said during a news conference today that out of 20,372 registered voters 6,291 cast their ballots in Kosovska Mitrovica, while 900 voted in Novo Brdo, where there are 1,081 registered voters.
In Kosovska Mitrovica, SNS won 1,104 votes, followed by DSS with 1,084, DS with 1,068, while the SPS-PUPS-JS coalition, G17 Plus, SDP Citizens Initiative and SDPS won 554, 442, 461 and 319 votes respectively, said RIK Secretary Veljko Odalović.
In Novo Brdo, DS took 256 votes, followed by SPS-PUPS-JS, SNS and DSS with 393, 186, and 54 respectively.
Odalović said there were no incidents or complaints to the election process, and that parties have until tonight to lodge their complaints
If there were none, Odalović explained, the results published today would be announced as final and complete.
The elections were organized by the government in Belgrade and were met with protests on the southern side of Kosovska Mitrovica organized by ethnic Albanians.
Serbs in the north and Albanians in the south of Kosovska Mitrovica began throwing stones and rocks at each other across the city’s main bridge after some 2,000 Albanians gathered on the south side of the bridge to protest the elections.
KFOR, Kosovo police, KPS, and EU mission, EULEX, police had to intervene on Sunday to stop the conflict from escalating.
BELGRADE -- Ministry for Kosovo State Secretary Oliver Ivanović has said that there will “certainly be new negotiations about the status of Kosovo”.
“I don’t doubt that we’ll arrive at technical negotiations, and I’m convinced that we’ll also arrive at those main talks about the status,” Ivanović said.
Such negotiations are necessary and they are always better than conflict, he added, and warned of the danger of high tension and conflict in case there were no talks.
According to the state secretary, it is very important that both sides realize the need for the talks and a reasonable solution.
“The world slowly realizes how bad the solution for Kosovo is, bad for stability in the Balkans. That’s why the position that new talks and finding of a sustainable solution are necessary is increasingly maturing. And it will be sustainable only if supported by Serbia,” he emphasized.
“The first and basic thing is to get the opinion of the International Court of Justice (ICJ) which I’m convinced will be on our side,” Ivanović stated and added that the ruling “would improve our negotiating position”.
The UN's top court is currently deliberating the case of the legality of the Kosovo Albanian unilateral independence declaration under international law.
The proclamation was made over two years ago, and has been recognized by 22 out of 27 EU countries and the United States, but has been rejected as an illegal act of secession by Belgrade.
The UDI remains unrecognized by Russia and China as well, and Kosovo has not been able to apply for UN memberhsip.
Now, Ivanović says, “it is time that (ethnic) Albanians start thinking about the way out of the situation”.
“They can go no further, and we can ignore the fact that about 70 countries have recognized Kosovo,” the state secretary was quoted as saying.
Pointing out that “there are too many bad politicians on all sides”, Ivanović stresses that “bad politicians in Priština today have a thesis that their economic situation is bad because Serbia is not recognizing them, which is utter nonsense”.
Their economic progress depends on political stability, “and there will be none if Serbia keeps opposing and they keep trying to impose”, said Ivanović.
LIMA -- “Unlike Priština (Kosovo Albanians) we do not have a superpower behind us,” says Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremiæ.
“This is not an equal fight. Hard days are ahead of us in the fight for Kosovo,” Jeremiæ was also quoted as saying, and adding that “we likely won't be able to get out of it without a single scratch, without a single new recognition of Kosovo”.
Despite that, the minister stated, Serbia will continue to use peaceful, political and diplomatic means to preserve its sovereignty and territorial integrity.
Kosovo's ethnic Albanians unilaterally declared independence in February 2008, which Belgrade rejected as an illegal act of secession.
Now on the margins of the OAS gathering, Jeremiæ met with many Latin American representatives, including those from the Bahamas, Ecuador, Panama, Uruguay, Guatemala, Barbados and Guayana.
“We are facing strong pressure for new recognitions of Kosovo. Unlike Priština, we do not have a superpower behind us, we do not have someone who is able to offer great financial help or threaten that privileges or preferential treatment would be cut off,” he said.
“One thing is certain. Although difficult days in our fight for Kosovo are ahead, there will be no surrender and no backing down,” Jeremiæ sent his message.
Jeremić is a lame duck. He is not all bad but it has become clear his policy is not the policy of the government. What he says is more a reflection of his own personal stances than what the Belgrade quisling government is really thinking and hoping for.
Post by TsarSamuil on Jun 12, 2010 11:35:55 GMT -5
EU official: Too early to talk about Kosovo.
12 June 2010 | 11:27 | Source: Tanjug
PRAGUE, BELGRADE -- EU delegation chief in Serbia Vincent Degert said that the Kosovo issue would crystallize once the ICJ gives its opinion on the independence proclamation.
Asked whether the official stance of Brussels is that EU integration and Kosovo are no longer separate questions for Serbia, and whether recognizing Kosovo’s independence would be a condition for membership, Degert said that it is too early to talk about this issue and that the International Court of Justice’s (ICJ) decision needs to be heard first.
“It is too early for this question, just as it is too early to answer it. There is an open legal process which is ongoing at the ICJ in The Hague, and we should wait for the decision of the court, see what the court says, and then look at what we will do next,” Degert said.
He repeated the stance of EU Enlargement Commissioner Stefan Fuele that Kosovo and EU integration are two different issues, but reminded that the EU functions according to the principle of consensus.
“These two question are parallel processes that are moving ahead together and must move forward. However, the way the European Union works is that a consensus is needed among all member-states. We must, with time, find a solution that will please all 27 member-states, because a consensus is needed for this,” he said.
UK ambassador to Serbia Stephen Wordsworth recently said that Kosovo and EU integration are no longer separate issues for Serbia and that by insisting on new status negotiations for Kosovo, Serbia is butting heads with the 22 EU member-states that have recognized Kosovo’s independence.
Similar statements have come from officials in Germany, Sweden and even French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner.
Cry Havoc - World Court Demolishes International Law.
Antiwar.com by Nebojsa Malic, July 23, 2010
The decision of the International Court of Justice, made public on July 22, that the unilateral declaration of independence by the provisional government of Kosovo "did not violate any applicable rule of international law" was both predictable and shocking.
Predictable, because the ICJ panel considering the case included judges from nine countries that had already recognized the "independent republic of Kosovo." As deliberations began in December 2009, ICJ president Hisashi Owada even blurted out that the decision would be vague — which was interpreted at the time as confirmation that the court was under tremendous political pressure.
Shocking, because the actual decision (PDF) — that the declaration "did not violate general international law, Security Council resolution 1244 (1999) or the Constitutional Framework" — was reached by cheating.
Sophistry and Sleight of Hand
The question before the court, based on the request of the Serbian government to the UN General Assembly in October 2008, was whether the Provisional Institutions of Self-Government (PISG) acted legally when they declared independence in February 2008. The answer was intuitively obvious: the provisional government, set up by UNMIK under the provisions of UN Security Council resolution 1244, had no such power.
In his dissenting opinion (PDF), Judge Mohammed Bennouna of Morocco quotes the statement by Michael Steiner, then viceroy of Kosovo, from November 2002:
"Kosovo is under the authority of UN Security Council Resolution 1244 (1999). Neither Belgrade nor Pristina can prejudge the future status of Kosovo. Its future status is open and will be decided by the UN Security Council. Any unilateral statement in whatever form which is not endorsed by the Security Council has no legal effect on the future status of Kosovo."
There is no ambiguity here. Unless the Security Council endorses the resolution of status, it simply cannot be legal. The Albanian provisional government was established by UNMIK, under the provisions of 1244, and therefore had to abide by those rules and laws. It did not. It clearly overstepped its authority, and its actions could not be legal. So how could the ICJ rule otherwise?
Another dissenting judge, Abdul Koroma of Sierra Leone explains (PDF):
"[The] majority opinion avoids this result by a kind of judicial sleight-of-hand, reaching a hasty conclusion that the "authors" of the unilateral declaration of independence were not acting as the Provisional Institutions of Self-Government of Kosovo but rather as the direct representatives of the Kosovo people and were thus not subject to the Constitutional Framework and UNMIK regulations. That conclusion simply cannot be correct …"
What point is there in law, if one can circumvent it simply by calling oneself differently?
Bennouna calls the majority’s reasoning "at best a sophism" and concludes:
"…it does not matter whether or not the authors of the declaration of independence are considered to be members of the Assembly of Kosovo; under no circumstances were they entitled to adopt a declaration that contravenes the Constitutional Framework and Security Council resolution 1244 by running counter to the legal régime for the administration of Kosovo established by the United Nations."
Upon reading these dissenting opinions, as well as those of vice-president Tomka (PDF) and Judge Skotnikov (PDF), it is hard to conclude that the ICJ reached its decision in good faith.
A Can of Worms
Serbia has already rejected the verdict and reiterated it would "never" recognize the province’s separation. The Albanians in Kosovo are celebrating what they consider a major victory. A day before the ruling, Vice President Biden reiterated the U.S. support for its protégé, and Washington is now calling for more recognitions. However, there are no indications any of the five EU members still refusing to recognize Kosovo as independent are prepared to change their mind. Despite some speculation in the West that Russia might throw the Serbs under a bus in favor of recognitions for South Ossetia and Abkhazia, the official Russian responsewas critical of the ICJ verdict.
Very few people will ever bother to read the hundreds of pages of the majority opinion, separate opinions by several majority judges, or the dissents. The vast majority of the world’s inhabitants will take media reportsthat "Kosovo declaration was ruled legal" at face value.
Over the past two years, the Empire and its followers confidently argued that even if the ICJ ruled against them, the decision would be "advisory and non-binding." Yet now they forget about that detail, and treat it as complete and total vindication of their claims.
Yet for all its verbal acrobatics, the ICJ did not really delve into the issue of whether the Kosovo Albanians’ case for independence had any merit. What it did do, however, is open up a can of worms about secessions worldwide. One senior UN official told Reuters that the ruling "will be read in a lot of capitals on the basis not of the Kosovo case itself but of the general implications for each country."
And not just in places like Slovakia, Spain or Cyprus. Daniel Miller, president of the Texas Nationalist Movement (TNM) cheered the decision today, stating:
"The United States and other European nations have acknowledged the right of unilateral secession of any state, thereby making any violent opposition to a seceding state unsustainable and unjustified."
That is most certainly not what the sponsors of the "independent state of Kosovo" in Washington and Brussels had in mind. In fact, they insisted from the very beginning that Kosovo was a sui generis case, a special one-off situation that would not set any precedents, so the rest of the world had no reason to worry. When one tears down the law, however, there truly aren’t any precedents — or rules, for that matter. Everything becomes sui generis, and the governing "principle" is whatever works at the time.
The Balkans lands are the prime example of this Orwellian development. In 1991, the U.S. and European capitals initially supported the integrity of Yugoslavia, only to completely turn around and endorse the secession of Slovenia and Croatia based on the right of self-determination. The secession of Croatia and Bosnia-Herzegovina — uncontested in principle by Serbia, it needs to be noted — produced a conundrum of their own, some 2 million Serbs who did not wish to separate from Yugoslavia, so they themselves seceded. At this point, however, Americans and Europeans began to insist that the integrity of Croatia and Bosnia trumped the Serbs’ right to self-determination. Yet when it came to Kosovo, the "principle" shifted again, so the rights of Kosovo Albanians trumped the integrity of Serbia!
As Doug Bandow put it, back in 2007, "If there was one consistent theme to the U.S. position, it was that the Serbs should lose."
Attempts to point out the incongruity were brushed aside by Imperial policymakers as a futile search for "perfect reasoning, which does not correspond to reality on the ground." That is, "reality" as willed into existence by the Empire.
Even the ICJ has not been immune to this relativistic logic. Back in 1999, it refused to hear Yugoslavia’s case against NATO, claiming that Belgrade had no standing. But in 2006 it ruled that Serbia had standing to have been sued by Bosnia back in 1993! That case, incidentally, ended with Serbia exonerated of all charges, which may have been the reason why Belgrade placed so much trust in the ICJ when it came to Kosovo.
Hubris and Nemesis
Empire’s crafting of an "independent" state in Kosovo has been an ongoing process since 1998, or maybe even before. Along the way, it has demanded many coercive changes to reality, the most apparent being the 1999 war and occupation of the province. This week’s ICJ decision comes a close second. Truly convinced in their ability to reshape the world by their strength of will, Imperial policymakers have forgotten that ideas — and actions — have consequences. As noted in this column in December 2009, "It is one thing to flout the law with impunity. It is quite another to call such of behavior legal."
Yet that is exactly what the ICJ decision has done for the Empire. What forces may have been unleashed by Thursday’s decision, only time will tell. But the law of unintended consequences and a sense of irony ingrained in human history suggest that the blowback will be nothing short of spectacular.
KIEV -- Ukraine's acting Foreign Minister Vladimir Handogy stated that the official Kiev will not recognize Kosovo.
He pointed out that his country supports unconditional abidance by the principle of territorial integrity and sovereignty.
Handogy conferred on Monday with Serbian Ambassador to Ukraine Dušan Lazić and informed him that Ukraine will not change its stand regarding Kosovo. The minister pointed out that the resolution of the Kosovo issue cannot be treated as a precedent for solving other ethnic conflicts.
The Ukrainian official noted that his country is willing to participate in a constructive debate on the resolution on Kosovo within the framework of the forthcoming United Nations General Assembly.
Lazić informed Handogy of Serbia's stand after the advisory opinion which the International Court of Justice issued on July 22.
The Serbian ambassador also delivered a letter which Serbian President Boris Tadić addressed to his Ukrainian counterpart Viktor Yanukovych, the Ukrainian media reported.
Meanwhile in Priština, it has been announced that the Kosovo Albanian government had sent a letter to the Islamic Organization Conference (IOC) and the Arab League (AL) calling for new recognitions.
“After confirming the right of Kosovo to independence by the International Court of Justice, the time has come for countries to begin formally recognizing it,” Skender Hyseni, appointed by the government in Priština as the foreign minister, writes in the letter.
He addressed it to the secretary generals of both organizations, the IOC’s Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu and AL’s Amr Moussa.
Albanian news agency ATA reported that Hyseni asked Ihsanoglu and Moussa to use their authority and influence the member-states of their organizations to recognize Kosovo.
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) said in its advisory opinion on Kosovo issued last month that, as there was no active provision in international law prohibiting UDIs, the Kosovo Albanian declaration did not violate international law.
The top UN court did not rule on the right to secession and self-determination.
The advisory opinion will now be sent to the UN General Assembly, that will also debate a draft Serbian resolution as it meets in New York in September.
Belgrade rejects the Kosovo Albanian unilateral proclamation as an illegal act of secession.
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Jul 30, 2018 10:49:17 GMT -5
TsarSamuil: large forest fires, not where I live, but have country-wide BBQ ban..which I find ridiculous...not to enjoy this warm summer? pffft..
Jul 30, 2018 10:50:42 GMT -5
White Cossack: You enjoy it, huh.
Jul 30, 2018 12:41:41 GMT -5
TsarSamuil: Bbq is basic slavic right
Aug 3, 2018 10:18:31 GMT -5
Proto-Orchid: @ussrstrong: I blame general low activity on social medias, all the people sit there today
Oct 10, 2018 12:53:50 GMT -5
reznik: @proto-Orchid: very true. What's worse, is that the system is designed specifically to keep those people dormant in their echo chambers. Nothing new to learn for them there, just stupid cat videos and such. Sad.
Oct 14, 2018 5:48:26 GMT -5
Proto-Orchid: Its the substitute for going out, meeting and spending your time with friends in real life. Its just part of the story. When I was younger I remember people were meeting to play team sports, but today you see completely autistic people jogging with iPhone.
Oct 14, 2018 18:18:38 GMT -5
Proto-Orchid: Then they come back home, put pictures on Instagram or Facebook to show off how they spent their time jogging, and as mental satisfaction they get few likes or hearts, or whatever social medias have today, which is a measure of how good their life is. Sick
Oct 14, 2018 18:21:43 GMT -5
Pan-Slavic Patriot: Sto Latz! Today marks 100 years of Polska! May there be 100 more! Wish I could have gone to the Independence March to celebrate this year, of all years. Theres always the next one to look forward to...
Nov 11, 2018 6:56:57 GMT -5
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Nov 25, 2018 17:19:11 GMT -5
Pan-Slavic Patriot: The latest flare up in the Ukraine-Russia conflict is painful to watch. Two brothers pit against one-another by foriegn elites, for what? Money and power... Sad.
Nov 30, 2018 3:17:07 GMT -5
TsarSamuil: Seems like its loosing momentum? lets hope...
Dec 29, 2018 9:15:04 GMT -5
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Feb 27, 2019 23:01:32 GMT -5
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Jun 3, 2019 0:37:57 GMT -5
White Cossack: Nikolov, my dear.. What's up
Jul 28, 2019 9:08:27 GMT -5
TsarSamuil: Bought a 3rd book shelf, for some reason I'm crazy about buying lots of books..
Aug 12, 2019 15:49:41 GMT -5
kooratz: I don't shout , it's considered rude, here in the US. I do shout a few things though, for one, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, IS RUINING OUR NATION!
Sept 13, 2019 20:32:33 GMT -5
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Nov 28, 2019 11:30:45 GMT -5
TsarSamuil: A guy keeps spamming casino links every day, I have to ban him constantly, I wonder what his post count would be otherwise, approaching mine?
Jan 10, 2020 14:27:01 GMT -5