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Post by CHORNYVOLK on May 26, 2008 14:46:06 GMT -5
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Post by Raven on Sept 8, 2008 10:52:52 GMT -5
now is obvious... Putin is one of Slavic traitors, same as Polish Tusk or Serbian Tadic before him, or side by side with him, or whatever...
In time when Serbian public say that Russia is right for reacting in Ossetia because Russia is obviously right, Russia`s Putin and other representatives of Russia betrayed Serbs comparing Srebrenica to Ossetia.
How Putin dared to compare that when at least him knows very well that 3000 (children woman and man) Serbians was masacred on most brutal ways by Arab/Bosnian mujaheedines, in UN `protected` zone before Mladic`s reaction (move of troops) was provoked. And even then Mladic saved Bosnian Muslim woman and children! How Putin dared to spit on Serbs killed by mujaheedines. Maybe Putin now, this way obey to `world`s governmant. Maybe he scared and now falling in tarchery!
Well, it won`t pass `Mr` Puta Putin! fu** you!! **** you and **** Tusk and **** that `Serbian` traitor Tadic!
Down with traitors!
Help us Russians and Poles, go out on streets of your enslaved countries and put THEM down in dust where traitors belong!
Only Slavija can save us! Long live Slavija!
Slavija Majka! Slavija Besmrtna!
Long live Poland! Long live Russia! Long live Serbia!
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aleks
Starshina
zivela jaka i ujedinjena slavija
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Post by aleks on Sept 8, 2008 11:06:23 GMT -5
druze i rusi imaju svoj dnevnik oni nemogu da non stop paze srpske interese
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Post by Raven on Sept 8, 2008 11:10:56 GMT -5
aleks prijatelju svi smo mi u istim govnima, sve izdajnik do izdajnika i to medjusobno kordinirani tako da njihova prica lici na zanimljivu i `kao slucajnu` pricu. A narod, budale koje niko ne jebe ni pet posto i niko i ne pita
Pa kako smo samo pristali da ne budemo ljudi nego puki robovi i roboti!!! Bas smo govna - svi!
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Post by medo on Sept 8, 2008 13:34:57 GMT -5
now is obvious... Putin is one of Slavic traitors, same as Polish Tusk or Serbian Tadic before him, or side by side with him, or whatever... In time when Serbian public say that Russia is right for reacting in Ossetia because Russia is obviously right, Russia`s Putin and other representatives of Russia betrayed Serbs comparing Srebrenica to Ossetia. How Putin dared to compare that when at least him knows very well that 3000 (children woman and man) Serbians was masacred on most brutal ways by Arab/Bosnian mujaheedines, in UN `protected` zone before Mladic`s reaction (move of troops) was provoked. And even then Mladic saved Bosnian Muslim woman and children! How Putin dared to spit on Serbs killed by mujaheedines. Maybe Putin now, this way obey to `world`s governmant. Maybe he scared and now falling in tarchery! Well, it won`t pass `Mr` Puta Putin! fu** you!! **** you and **** Tusk and **** that `Serbian` traitor Tadic! Down with traitors! Help us Russians and Poles, go out on streets of your enslaved countries and put THEM down in dust where traitors belong! Only Slavija can save us! Long live Slavija! Slavija Majka! Slavija Besmrtna! Long live Poland! Long live Russia! Long live Serbia! Dear Serbian brother Raven, I think you are very, very wrong about this particular issue! You are obviously very naive if you really think that anyone in Russia really considers the situation the same. All this is just to make an answer to the West! Also you must admit that even Serbian ultra-nationalists also admit that in Srebrenica civilians were killed and in thousands! The only problem is that the Western press disregards the truth that Serbian civilians were also killed in thousands in the very same area around Srebrenica (although not at one time but distributed in time), what actually triggered the Serbian response, but one crime does not make an accuse for another. After all you must also understand what very nicely said Aleks: " druze i rusi imaju svoj dnevnik oni nemogu da non stop paze srpske interese" That means " Hey comrade, Russians too have interests and their own plan of actions and they cannot always, non-stop, watch and defend Serbian interests". That was very, very good comment from Aleks and I shall add to that what said Aleks -> especially when the majority of Serbs decided to support pro.western parties! Although I am not Serb here on this forum sometimes I was even bigger Serb than many of the Serbs here. But dear brother Raven you must admit that no one could be or should be bigger Serb than Serb himself. If the Serbs decided to support their pro-western parties they must be prepared for all the consequences. But I again emphasize that you didn't understand this message well, you didn't understand what the message was intended for, and in my honest opinion you are a naive and maybe too emotional about statements which are used only as a daily politics! Please read what your favorite Serbian politician, Vojislav Koshtunica, said in an interview to the Serbian daily Politika about Serbia, Kosovo, Russia etc...: www.politika.rs/rubrike/Politika/Zadovoljan-sam-shto-nisam-pravio-ustupke.lt.htmlI must admit that I am very pleasantly surprised with Koshtunica. he sounds very reasonable and realistic. Pozdrav dragi srpski brate. P.S. Molim te nemoj uzimati previše srcu izjave koje su namjenjene Zapadu i dnevnoj poltici! |
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Post by balkannj on Sept 8, 2008 14:01:01 GMT -5
No, I think they only meant soldiers were killed. Almost all the Muslim dead are men of military age and they are using those who died before the fall and still they don't have the numbers claimed.
Plus there is no available autopsy records for the public/researchers to help count actual battle deaths, mine/accident deaths, disease versus any execution style deaths. They are no doubt including battle deaths during the fall and trying to push the belief that they all died unarmed and execution style.
The Muslim army soldiers got orders to gather and leave on the eve of the fall. They left their strong defensive positions all around Srebrenica on these orders. They and other able-bodied men marched out over night and into the morning. The columns had cleared Srebrenica city limits by the time the Serbs arrived in the afternoon.
There was a lot of Serbian-held territory the columns had to cover to reach Muslim-held territory. The majority of them arrived in Tuzla starting a week afterward. Some of them even went to Serbia and were held as prisoners for a while (the ICRC had access to them) before they were released. Some of these were allegedly sent to Australia without notification of their families.
The Muslim government and military kept the Red Cross from access to them and gathering their names.
The media pushed Srebrenica story is a hoax.
The "fall" of Srebrenica was planned by the leadership and probably in conjunction with the U.S. and other advisers.
It was done to separate the factions for the upcoming Dayton Accords/wrapping up the war (around 4 months later) and the militarized enclave in Srebrenica wasn't going to be sustained indefinitely.
However they couldn't just tell the people to leave and they wanted to get the army out of there so the Serbs couldn't capture/prosecute them which is why they slipped out at night.
The civilians were given bus rides by Serb civilian drivers at the request of the UN which had for a week previous been ordering the women and children to the base in Potocari and using scare tactics on them as well.
The Serb bus drivers simply drove them to Tuzla airport where the UN had planned and ordered them. Not a one is pictured with injuries.
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Alek
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Mozecie mnie uwazac za prawoslawnego, Polak-Prawoslawny, Orthodox.
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Post by Alek on Sept 8, 2008 14:18:45 GMT -5
Only Slavija can save us! Long live Slavija!
Slavija Majka! Slavija Besmrtna!
Long live Poland! Long live Russia! Long live Serbia! Zdravo! |
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slavianin
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Mother Russia
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Post by slavianin on Sept 8, 2008 15:12:15 GMT -5
I think it was during an interview with the German channel ARD that Putin mentioned the situation in Srebrenica. Basically the West considers Srebrenica as a huge tragedy. Especially in Holland, where the peacekeepers were coming from at that time. He just pointed out that while the Dutch peacekeepers were partying in Srebrenica, the Russian peacekeepers were defending the people of Ossetia.
At least that’s how I see it.
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Post by pastir on Sept 8, 2008 15:19:39 GMT -5
It doesn`t make him a traitor, but it makes him something close to an idiot to swallow Western-Mujahedeen propaganda like that.
Except if he was only using it as an example that will be familiar to the Westerners without really beliving it. But yes that is even worse and a big slight.
Though if politicians from Serbia freely "admit" to much more what can we expect from outsiders...
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Post by stanislav on Sept 8, 2008 17:11:29 GMT -5
Except if he was only using it as an example that will be familiar to the Westerners without really beliving it. But yes that is even worse and a big slight. I believe this is the case. I think there was no need for that, and felt a bit disapointed. Also that Rogozin guy mentioning Gavrilo Princip. Though if politicians from Serbia freely "admit" to much more what can we expect from outsiders... So true. That is why I wasn't disapointed too much. |
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Post by medo on Sept 8, 2008 17:15:48 GMT -5
Except if he was only using it as an example that will be familiar to the Westerners without really beliving it. This is exactly what I believe in. Putin was just exploiting something that the West uses in its daily politics when the West wants to pressure Serbia. Basically he said something like this: " You think Srebrenica was a huge tragedy? But we were preventing something like that in South Ossetia." |
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Post by medo on Sept 8, 2008 17:19:10 GMT -5
Except if he was only using it as an example that will be familiar to the Westerners without really beliving it. But yes that is even worse and a big slight. I believe this is the case. Hey, without knowing for each other we made similar comment on the same poster about the same time :-) |
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Post by pastir on Sept 8, 2008 17:49:23 GMT -5
Also that Rogozin guy mentioning Gavrilo Princip. He did? That gets on my tits. Princip was a hero. Up there with Obilic. |
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Post by Orao on Sept 8, 2008 19:32:27 GMT -5
I see nothing wrong with such a comparison.
Srebrenica is sad because Slavs killed Slavs, and had Russia not intervened in Ossetia many Srebrenica's could've happened and that would be sad because people of the same faith would be killing each other.
No, Putin is not a traitor. Putin is a smart man.
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Post by stanislav on Sept 8, 2008 20:14:34 GMT -5
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