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Post by Boris Sarafov on Mar 9, 2008 9:36:17 GMT -5
No, he is Macedonian from Ohrid. He has a surname because his family never took on any of the endings, so the name stood as originally should be Malenko. There is no such thing as a "typical" macedonian surname, not all macedonians surnames end in ov or ski - i hate met macedonians with "sloven" and russian sounding surnames, and eve ones that are no commen ie Radin I think thats the case with most other slavic countries, for example not all serbs have the 'ic" ending: Vojislav Kostunica, Gavrilo Princip etc No one said anything about typical surnames, but his name is left as it was originally. I don't see your point in why you would hate meeting someone with that type of last name, doesn't make them any less Macedonian. |
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Post by Danik on Mar 10, 2008 15:26:40 GMT -5
"I think that South Slavic countries need governments that should turn from puppet governments into really nationalistic governments which protect interests of their own countries".
Wouldn't that lead to further escalation of separatism within all ethnic dominated enclaves within each former Y state demanding independence or some other kind of troubles? Give it a thought Medo.
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Post by pastir on Mar 10, 2008 15:29:16 GMT -5
I think you did not understand my post -> I was talking about nationalists and " nationalists". From what I know about V. Yanukovych and his Party of Regions (Партія регіонів) I do consider him a Ukrainian nationalist. He is not pro-Russian! He is a true Ukrainian nationalist. And this is good for Ukraine and Russia. Janukovič is no nationalist. He is simply a man of the eastern Ukrainian oligarchs. He happens to be a lesser evil at the moment, but there is no need to idealise him. |
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Post by Lonevolk on Mar 10, 2008 21:07:17 GMT -5
I do not think that south Slavic countries need pro-Russian or pro-American or pro-European or pro-xzy governments! I think that South Slavic countries need pro-Croatian, pro-Macedonian, pro-Serbian, pro-Montenegrinian... governments! I think that South Slavic countries need governments that should turn from puppet governments into really nationalistic governments which protect interests of their own countries. What's the point in changing from being American puppet into Russian puppet??? Look in a ideal world I would agree with you. But in a situation like we have today complete independence and sovereignty is practically impossible......sooner or later you have to pick a side |
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Post by The Ultimate Warrior on Mar 12, 2008 7:05:20 GMT -5
Macedonia Government Faces Crisis 11 March 2008 Skopje _ The Democratic Party of Albanians, DPA, the key Albanian partner in the ruling centre-right coalition lead by VMRO-DPMNE, said Monday it is reconsidering whether to stay in government. “The DPA's leading bodies are to decide in a matter of days”, the party said through its website. The party said the move comes after Prime Minister and VMRO-DPMNE head Nikola Gruevski previously rejected a list of demands the DPA chief Menduh Thaci, had given Gruevski on Monday. They have given Gruevski two days to change his mind. The government spokesman Ivica Bocevski told media Monday, that he has “no information” of such claims. Thaci, allegedly demanded guarantees from Gruevski for the quick completion of six key issues, including the immediate closure of cases against former ethnic Albanian guerrillas that fought Macedonian security forces during a short conflict in 2001. Read more at www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/8343/The DPA also insisted on state pensions for former ethnic Albanian guerrillas, on making Albanian an official language across the country and on the wider integration of ethnic Albanians into public office. In addition, DPA allegedly wanted further concessions on the use of the Albanian flag in municipalities where they form a large proportion of the population and urged swift recognition of neighbouring Kosovo's independence. The possible break up of coalition would leave VMRO-DPMNE with insufficient seats in parliament to form government on their own since it controls only 40 of the 120 seats in the assembly. The DPA has 11 deputies. The turmoil in the government comes just weeks ahead of the NATO's Bucharest Summit in April where the country expects to receive an invitation for joining the Alliance. The country is under increased diplomatic pressure to reach a quick compromise with neighbouring Greece over the “name” dispute in order to avoid a Greek veto of its membership bid. Read more at www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/8466/DPA says will quit governing coalition kopje /11/03/ 08:51 Democratic Party of Albanians (DPA) leader Menduh Thaci hinted at the possibility to quit the ruling coalition unless the key government ally upholds DPA's six demands. Citing unnamed sources in DPA, the local A1 TV said Monday that Thaci's decision was subject to formal approval by DPA's leading figures. The same sources said Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski met with Thaci, but there was no word on the meeting agenda. Sources in the government said there was no hint by DPA to quit the ruling coalition. According to A1 TV, Thaci demanded resocialization of the former NLA fighters and officialization of Albanian language. DPA leader also demanded a prompt recognition of Kosovo, increased representation of Albanians in public administration, simultaneous use of Macedonian and Albanian flag at local level, and closure of the four cases that were handed over by The Hague Tribunal's prosecution recently. /end/ Copyright 2008 makfax. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed |
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Post by The Ultimate Warrior on Mar 12, 2008 7:09:32 GMT -5
The shiptars are trying to hold macedonia ransom and trying to ruin the countrys chances of getting into NATO. I really feel for the macedonian president, he is being pressured by Greece to change the name of his country, "kosova" wants more land from macedonia, the albanians in macedonia are asking for crazy things, the country is surrounded by nations that want the country to fail, macedonia does not have any real allies or "friends" - and finally the good old USA is pressuring macedonia to change its name and give more "rights" to the albanians. However good on macedonia for standing up to itself, i dont want to sound dramatic but i hope its not the begining of the end for macedonia. Btw, just look at these stupid comments coming from the shiptars: www.albanian.com/community/vbl/showthread.php?t=16913 |
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Post by soldier7799 on Mar 12, 2008 9:44:45 GMT -5
It will be insane for "macedonians" to support Kosovo.The half of macedonian population are albanians...
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Post by Boris Sarafov on Mar 12, 2008 10:15:38 GMT -5
It will be insane for "macedonians" to support Kosovo.The half of macedonian population are albanians... Wrong, and stop spreading Albanian propaganda, because thats what " bulgarians " wish for. The population is actually 23%, and thats only because they include the Torbeshi and some turks include themselves in it. |
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Post by Aleksandrov on Mar 13, 2008 7:17:06 GMT -5
Real percent of Albanians in Macedonia is about 19 %
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Post by slav14 on Mar 13, 2008 7:47:50 GMT -5
It seams Macedonia is not that brave anymore, they are on their way to recognize Kosovo  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2008 8:19:48 GMT -5
Real percent of Albanians in Macedonia is about 19 % Too big... |
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Post by slav14 on Mar 13, 2008 9:00:23 GMT -5
0,001 is too big.. 19% is horrible!
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Post by soldier7799 on Mar 13, 2008 14:29:29 GMT -5
19% now,wait 10 years and than talk.In Bulgaria 7 from 10 babies are gypsies,add the turks and others and than see the result-Gypsy country.People just cant understand how big is that problem.Albanians and gypsies are the same shit.
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Post by Pravoslav on Mar 14, 2008 8:20:44 GMT -5
I think we all have to realise that the birth rate of the Slavic countries is pretty shit. I don't know why but i'm sure the Western culture clubbing among my generation has something to do with it. No one cares about family values anymore. And with the Slavic world westernising even more it will only get worse. Thats why when i read statistics of 25% of Macedonia being Albanians i believe it. I say give it 30 years max and my country (Macedonia) is going to the third Albania. This is why i support Russia and Serbia in everything they do against Albanians. Everyone who is against their alliance is a traitor.
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Post by medo on Mar 14, 2008 9:17:04 GMT -5
I think that "brave" Macedonia is "brave" because it looks like that USA have decided to support Greece (which also showed concerns about Kosovo "independence") in its dispute with Macedonia about its name. Apparently Greeks are as "principled" as N. Chamberlain and are ready to trade their "principles" about Kosovo for USA standing behind them in Macedonian name issue.
Having USA supporting Greece, Macedonia has decided to be "naughty" and disobediently refuses to recognize "Kosova".
However Macedonia is as "principled" about "Kosova" as Greece is and is going to recognize "independence" as soon as it gets something in return.
I am certainly not condemning Macedonia but unfortunately this is reality. That much about "braveness".
Now, about the difficulty in Macedonia, I must regrettably admit that Macedonia is indeed in a very, very difficult situation, and I am talking about long term consequences of Macedonia being surrounded by more or less hostile nations.
Although I fully and honestly respect right of each nation/people to consider and name themselves as they like I also reserve right for myself to consider a nation as part of other nation. I consider Macedonians as Bulgarians and in long term I think it is best for Macedonia to unite with Bulgaria.
However this is just me, just my opinion, and I again emphasize that I honestly and sincerely respect Macedonian desire to consider themselves as a separate nation if they wish so.
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