Slavs, Jews & Israel.

[joko]

jaropolk said:

I cant keep silent about the ungrounded, unconditional antisemitism going on in this forum.

This is for daver2, joko, alexandrus and others.

My grandfather was jewish. He was born in 1911 in a little town near Kiev-Zvenigorodka. His father was killed during the Revolution (not as participant in any meaning). When he was 13 he had to go work on a factory. (Those were the difficult years after the civil war). Often he and his friends had nothing to eat, if they were lucky, they could smoke to lessen the hunger. Later he got the chance to study and became engineer. Then he moved to Leningrad in 1938 (his work demanded it).

When the war came(22 june 1941), he was one of the first to subsribe as volunteer. But they refused him (because he was an engineer, they said he was needed more in the rear, for now. From those who left from Leningrad in the first days only 2 % survived the war).
He defended Leningrad in 1941, fought at Kursk in 1943, where he was wounded, liberated Kurland(Latvia), where one of the strongest SS forces were cut off, and fought in Ukraine in 1944, went to the far east to battle the Japanese after 9 may 1945.

He received two red stars( Орден Красной Звезды), a service-in-battle medal(За боевые заслуги) and a medal of honor( За отвагу).

After the war he got several patents on high pressure molding.
He worked very hard and could easily climb up to become factory leader, but he didnt want to hustle.

He married my grandmoter(who waited for him the hole war) and they got two children. He didnt participate in politics in any way.

He died in 1981 of bloodcancer at the age of seventy.



I dont know about Polish jews, but Soviet-Jews were not cowards, they fought just as fierce as ethnic Russians.

I think you have misunderstood me. I'm not "Anti-Semitic" I'm anti-Zionist. This kind of misperception also enforces my position. Anyone who speaks out against Zionists in the Govermnent of America, The State of Israel, sex slavery going to Israel, is labled "Anti-Semite"...I have good videos from Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss, an Anti-Zionist Rabbi. I agree with his position. Again, I don't hate Jews, that is ridiculous to HATE everyone based on an ethnicity. I don't even hate all Jews living in Palestine.

[joko]

Also, If I was anti-Semtic..I would have to hate ALL Arabs, Assyrians, Berbers, certain mediterraneans of Semitic ancestry, and any other desert peoples who are/were swallowed up in the Arabisation.

[joko]

kjakrakieta said:

jaropolk said:

I dont know about Polish jews, but Soviet-Jews were not cowards, they fought just as fierce as ethnic Russians.

Not only were jews the biggest anti-Slavs during the Soviet Union, they basically created Communism, violently established it to grip-hold Russia, dominated as political heads, and put so many Slavs under agony. In Poland, the jews would grovel to the reds and punish Polish officers for fighting bolshevism in 1920, for owning a firearm, kill civilians, murderous behavior as this. Your fierce fighting Lazar Kogan murdered so many Ukrainians, Russians, other Slavs. They hated Catholic Poland and only used it as their safe haven from anti-semitic europe, then stabbed a dirty dagger in Poland's back on the break of the Soviet invasion. You seem to hold the same anti-Polish sentiments as your beloved zhids. So you may not look it in the flesh but you are a zhid in the soul.

I have to agree with the above.

[kjakrakieta]

jaropolk said:

You are insulting the Russian people, the slavic people. Do you really think a group of extremist jews could have a grip on Russians for 74 years??? >:(Are you saying Russians are fucking weaklings without a mind of their own and without two hands to fight? The only reason why communism lasted is because people didnt want something totally different, once again, the goal was to achieve a better society. Lenin deserved the death for the way he did the revolution, i agree(especially for his internationalism) but Chrushev and Gorbatchev wanted whats best for the people. And certainly there were many, many Russians that believed that Communism is the right thing.

>:

No, I'm not the one insulting other Slavs. The grip hold did happen quite obviously, so is history the one insulting Russians? or are you just the one making this retarded assertion no one mentioned to change the subject? I did mention more about zhids in my post, but you are a sneaky one.. how typical. not only on Russia but most of Eastern Europe was taken over by judeo-communism. Soviet jews were murderous and rampant, so these are my comments regarding you zhids, not Russian Slavs.

[Alexandrus]

Hahaha, ;D. maybe he insulted martians with his posts to . Your posts make no sense, dont try and change the subject to ''russophobia''.

[daver2]

kjakrakieta said:

jaropolk said:

You are insulting the Russian people, the slavic people. Do you really think a group of extremist jews could have a grip on Russians for 74 years??? >:(Are you saying Russians are fucking weaklings without a mind of their own and without two hands to fight? The only reason why communism lasted is because people didnt want something totally different, once again, the goal was to achieve a better society. Lenin deserved the death for the way he did the revolution, i agree(especially for his internationalism) but Chrushev and Gorbatchev wanted whats best for the people. And certainly there were many, many Russians that believed that Communism is the right thing.

>:

No, I'm not the one insulting other Slavs. The grip hold did happen quite obviously, so is history the one insulting Russians? or are you just the one making this retarded assertion no one mentioned to change the subject? I did mention more about zhids in my post, but you are a sneaky one.. how typical. not only on Russia but most of Eastern Europe was taken over by judeo-communism. Soviet jews were murderous and rampant, so these are my comments regarding you zhids, not Russian Slavs.

Why did you say 'was taken by judeo-comunism'. The current Russian government and its circles and lobbies derive directly from the former communist set-up. There were and will be Jews who play their roles as good fellow Russian citizens.

[Alexandrus]

daver2 said:

kjakrakieta said:

No, I'm not the one insulting other Slavs. The grip hold did happen quite obviously, so is history the one insulting Russians? or are you just the one making this retarded assertion no one mentioned to change the subject? I did mention more about zhids in my post, but you are a sneaky one.. how typical. not only on Russia but most of Eastern Europe was taken over by judeo-communism. Soviet jews were murderous and rampant, so these are my comments regarding you zhids, not Russian Slavs.

Why did you say 'was taken by judeo-comunism'. The current Russian government and its circles and lobbies derive directly from the former communist set-up. There were and will be Jews who play their roles as good fellow Russian citizens.

How exacltly ? Oh yes, yes the KGB, amazing...

[jaropolk]

kjakrakieta said:

jaropolk said:

You are insulting the Russian people, the slavic people. Do you really think a group of extremist jews could have a grip on Russians for 74 years??? >:(Are you saying Russians are fucking weaklings without a mind of their own and without two hands to fight? The only reason why communism lasted is because people didnt want something totally different, once again, the goal was to achieve a better society. Lenin deserved the death for the way he did the revolution, i agree(especially for his internationalism) but Chrushev and Gorbatchev wanted whats best for the people. And certainly there were many, many Russians that believed that Communism is the right thing.

>:

No, I'm not the one insulting other Slavs. The grip hold did happen quite obviously, so is history the one insulting Russians? or are you just the one making this retarded assertion no one mentioned to change the subject? I did mention more about zhids in my post, but you are a sneaky one.. how typical. not only on Russia but most of Eastern Europe was taken over by judeo-communism. Soviet jews were murderous and rampant, so these are my comments regarding you zhids, not Russian Slavs.

If you thought i would start proving how Slavic I am, you were wrong. I dont have to proof anything to you.
Two million Jews held 300 million in their reins, is what you are saying.....Or may be you are saying there were many more Jews?
Marx was a Jew, Lenin was a Jew, Stalin was a Jew.....yeah right....
Two million Jews held 300 million in their reins, is what you are saying.

[Alexandrus]

jaropolk said:

kjakrakieta said:

No, I'm not the one insulting other Slavs. The grip hold did happen quite obviously, so is history the one insulting Russians? or are you just the one making this retarded assertion no one mentioned to change the subject? I did mention more about zhids in my post, but you are a sneaky one.. how typical. not only on Russia but most of Eastern Europe was taken over by judeo-communism. Soviet jews were murderous and rampant, so these are my comments regarding you zhids, not Russian Slavs.

If you thought i would start proving how Slavic I am, you were wrong. I dont have to proof anything to you.
Two million Jews held 300 million in their reins, is what you are saying.....Or may be you are saying there were many more Jews?
Marx was a Jew, Lenin was a Jew, Stalin was a Jew.....yeah right....
Two million Jews held 300 million in their reins, is what you are saying.

Marx
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx
Lenin
www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-lenin.html
Trotsky (real name Bronstein)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky
Stalin...well he wasn't a jew, but at least he took some down before they finally poisoned him.

[jaropolk]

alexandrus said:

Hahaha, ;D. maybe he insulted martians with his posts to . Your posts make no sense, dont try and change the subject to ''russophobia''.

You act like an intellectual who passed several Gulags, lost his children and was sentensed to death for anti-Communist propaganda.

[Alexandrus]

jaropolk said:

alexandrus said:

Hahaha, ;D. maybe he insulted martians with his posts to . Your posts make no sense, dont try and change the subject to ''russophobia''.

You act like an intellectual who passed several Gulags, lost his children and was sentensed to death for anti-Communist propaganda.

Both of my great grandfathers went through that, never returned, still burried god knows where because the commie bastards wanted to hide their crimes. I lost a handful of relatives thanks to your kind.

[jaropolk]

alexandrus said:

jaropolk said:

You act like an intellectual who passed several Gulags, lost his children and was sentensed to death for anti-Communist propaganda.

Both of my great grandfathers went through that, never returned, still burried god knows where because the commie bastards wanted to hide their crimes. I lost a handful of relatives thanks to your kind.

And what exactly is my kind?

[Alexandrus]

jaropolk said:

alexandrus said:

Both of my great grandfathers went through that, never returned, still burried god knows where because the commie bastards wanted to hide their crimes. I lost a handful of relatives thanks to your kind.

And what exactly is my kind?

A communist sympathizer (probably one to), a jew maybe as well.

[jaropolk]

alexandrus said:

jaropolk said:

If you thought i would start proving how Slavic I am, you were wrong. I dont have to proof anything to you.
Two million Jews held 300 million in their reins, is what you are saying.....Or may be you are saying there were many more Jews?
Marx was a Jew, Lenin was a Jew, Stalin was a Jew.....yeah right....
Two million Jews held 300 million in their reins, is what you are saying.

Marx
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx
Lenin
www.jewwatch.com/jew-leaders-lenin.html
Trotsky (real name Bronstein)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky
Stalin...well he wasn't a jew, but at least he took some down before they finally poisoned him.

That Lenin was Jewish is really bullshit.

Instead of Marx ment to write ENGELS.

[jaropolk]

alexandrus said:

jaropolk said:

And what exactly is my kind?

A communist sympathizer (probably one to), a jew maybe as well.

I am not a Jew. My grandfather was. I dont sympathize to Jews(because they are not Slavic, but there is no reason to make a difference in the nationalist point of view, between Jews and for example Germans, Arabs, Chinese.
I dont sypathize to Israel neither.

Communist sympathizer? Would not call it that way, i would say Socialist .