Slavs, Jews & Israel.

[jaropolk]

slavski said:

These issues have a tendency to fall into a trap of generalizations. Surely not all heebs are evil. Just as not all slavs are great. Which is why Slavija imposed the rule against any Train Wrecks on the forum. I dont give a fuck if you have 100% noble slavic lineage, if you're a disgusting Train Wreck I want you out.

Like the time when I was at a school dance wearing my "Serbs Fucking Kick Ass" shirt and some fatass Jabba the Hut type Train Wreck bitch came in wearing a "Kiss Me, I'm Polish" shirt. I was praying the tub didnt spot my Serbian shirt, but she did and lumbered over to ask if I was slavic too. I said "not anymore bitch" and left.

Now when it comes to the zhid issue, I think those slavic diaspora who live in the US or Western Europe have a much more accurate vantage regarding the potential impact of heebs on slavic nations. The US has a population of only 3% yid. However they dominate the wealth, media, and political policy. You think that just happened out of coincidence? Just look at the cultural climate in the US. It's driven by Hollywood. Pretty much all heebs spreading their culture of "do anything for profit".

When viewing typical heeb behavior in the US, it's polar opposite to slavs. Generally speaking heebs worship money above all else and have a greed and self serving ego like no other. All justified since they are the "chosen". You see in the US the kike media belts out hundreds of Holocaust programs and films every year. Yet noweher is there mention of the Ukraine starvation or other gentiles peoples who suffered during the War. Why? Cause to the yid only the "chosen" can be victims.

Mainly what I have found is those who say "yids are great people" are those who live in countries where there is little kike influence or interaction. Come to the US. Deal with their spoiled power tripping asses first hand.

Basically, yid culture allowed in slavic lands would duplicate what has occured in the US: utter moral collapse. It's a driving force of Westernization. Because you see, Westernization mean lots and lots of profit to be made. And zhids sell their own souls down the shitter if it means making another dollar.

Slavija doesnt advocate blind hatred against anyone because they were born into a zhid household. They had no choice in the matter, otherwise they'd have chosen to be Russian. However it is valid and necessary to draw issue to the danger of US yid influence and culture. The criticism is valid, and by mentioning it doesn't make one an anti-semite.

You exagerating once again the role of the Zhids(If I understood you coorectly, you call with that word only the bad jews)

[zealotkommunizma]

Judaism is a religion. There are Jews of several differen ethnicities, yes, including Slavians. There a Jews in Russia, Jews in Poland, Jews in Yugoslavia, Jews in Czechslovakia and Jews nearly everywhere in Eastern Europe. And you want to know where most Jews proliferated? It was in Russia. Half if not 60% of Israel's founding population came from USSR and from the ones of USA many were descendants of Polish, Russian, Ukrainian and Czechslovak inmigrants to USA.

There are two main Jewish groups: Sefardim (Middle Eastern and Spanish) and Ashkenazim (Central and Eastern Europe). The greatest group world wide is the Ashkenazim and from those the majourity are of Polish, German and Russian descent. Making actual Jewish ethnical background hevily slavian.

I'm myself of Jewish ancestry although I don't follow the religion and I'm slavian.

Well this was some introduction to the ethnical background of nowadays Jews.

Now, being more objectie and straightforward to the point: Baseless shallow hatreds are always weak.

I have a question for all antisemites: Objectively, why do you hate Jews?

[joko]

slavski said:

These issues have a tendency to fall into a trap of generalizations. Surely not all heebs are evil. Just as not all slavs are great. Which is why Slavija imposed the rule against any Train Wrecks on the forum. I dont give a fuck if you have 100% noble slavic lineage, if you're a disgusting Train Wreck I want you out.

Like the time when I was at a school dance wearing my "Serbs Fucking Kick Ass" shirt and some fatass Jabba the Hut type Train Wreck bitch came in wearing a "Kiss Me, I'm Polish" shirt. I was praying the tub didnt spot my Serbian shirt, but she did and lumbered over to ask if I was slavic too. I said "not anymore bitch" and left.

Now when it comes to the zhid issue, I think those slavic diaspora who live in the US or Western Europe have a much more accurate vantage regarding the potential impact of heebs on slavic nations. The US has a population of only 3% yid. However they dominate the wealth, media, and political policy. You think that just happened out of coincidence? Just look at the cultural climate in the US. It's driven by Hollywood. Pretty much all heebs spreading their culture of "do anything for profit".

When viewing typical heeb behavior in the US, it's polar opposite to slavs. Generally speaking heebs worship money above all else and have a greed and self serving ego like no other. All justified since they are the "chosen". You see in the US the kike media belts out hundreds of Holocaust programs and films every year. Yet noweher is there mention of the Ukraine starvation or other gentiles peoples who suffered during the War. Why? Cause to the yid only the "chosen" can be victims.

Mainly what I have found is those who say "yids are great people" are those who live in countries where there is little kike influence or interaction. Come to the US. Deal with their spoiled power tripping asses first hand.

Basically, yid culture allowed in slavic lands would duplicate what has occured in the US: utter moral collapse. It's a driving force of Westernization. Because you see, Westernization mean lots and lots of profit to be made. And zhids sell their own souls down the shitter if it means making another dollar.

Slavija doesnt advocate blind hatred against anyone because they were born into a zhid household. They had no choice in the matter, otherwise they'd have chosen to be Russian. However it is valid and necessary to draw issue to the danger of US yid influence and culture. The criticism is valid, and by mentioning it doesn't make one an anti-semite.

I am part of the Slavic diaspora living in the U.S. From experience I can agree with most of what you are saying. The only thing is, I can witness this sick, money-loving, Capitalistic mental in alot of people. Anglos, Latinos, blacks, etc. whatever it's not hard to come across egocentrism and people treating each other like shit to move up the Corporate ladder.

[zealotkommunizma]

Capitalism. That's the keyword. However, many people do not understand that capitalism depend on the simple use of money and trade.

[medo]

zealotkommunizma said:

...many people do not understand that capitalism depend on the simple use of money and trade.

What do you mean by that? Could you, please, be more specific?

[rovchanin]

Capitalism depends on how to take all that money (salary) which a person get for his work. Just look how many things you need to pay for a month, so much expenses that many people are left with little or no money at all.

[zealotkommunizma]

rovchanin said:

Capitalism depends on how to take all that money (salary) which a person get for his work. Just look how many things you need to pay for a month, so much expenses that many people are left with little or no money at all.

Capitalism doesn't even depend on how you manage money. The simple existance of money, trade and capital lead to capitalism. To different kinds of it but capitalism anyway.

For example, wsas USSR socialist? No. It was A State Capitalism. There was money, there was consumerism and all was managed by the state. For capitalism to exist you don't need wealth to be managed and used by a handful of jews or other small groups. You simply need capital to exist.

[zealotkommunizma]

medo said:

zealotkommunizma said:

...many people do not understand that capitalism depend on the simple use of money and trade.

What do you mean by that? Could you, please, be more specific?

Of course.

Many people think that capitalism is limited to a system in which:
1) Free Market exists 2) Private Property exists 3) Capital is managed by individual corporations and individuals.

They think capitalism stops to exist when those factors are eliminated or mitigated, for example in the case of countries like USSR, Warsaw pact, NK or Cuba.

On these grounds, people think that if capital and means of production are owned by the state, there's not capitalism anymore.

However, they miss the essential points of capitalism.

As long as capital exists, and as long as money, trade a consumerism exist (capitalism relies greatly on consumerism) there will be capitalism. No matter who owns the means of production, no matter how wealth is distributed. If a nation uses trade, market and the concept of capital, there is capitalism.

In the case of USSR-like nations, it was the state who owned and distributed the nation's capital. It was the state the one who determined prices. It was the state which determined what to be produced and sold. There was still money, it was just managed by the state according to its necesities.

USSR was like a big enterprise and the ÊÏÑÑ were the chairmen of that enterprise. Profits would be used both to pay the workers (people), to keep up nation's infrastructure, pay military, and of course pay the usual luxuries of the highest members of the party.

The government relied on producing consumer goods to get profits as well as on taxes. All this to theoretically build socialism. That generated an implosive economy which we know how ended.

You cannot build an anti-capitalist system preserving the main characteristics of it. You can't build socialism by implementing a moderated capitalism.

People get used to capitalist modus vivendi and operandi and eventually realize how non-workable a State-Capitalism can be in consumer goods sectors specially because of the investment military requires for such sieged nations as those that have a system not compatible to the greatest capitalist powers' (or that struggle to be independant).

For capitalism to work, you need consumerism, for socialism to work you need consumerism to stop existing you need people to work more for values and responsability rather than for individual incomes. You cannot have both.

That's what happened to USSR.

In summary USSR was a Socialist-tending State Capitalism.

And many now confuse socialism and communism with that system.

That's because people are unable to see that capitalism can exist in many forms and doesn't necesarily require to be a free market economy or an economy with private enterprise.

[morozov]

Commie, if you suggest to try again then do it for your own, maybe with rabbits or rats.
I 'm gonna teach my future kids one lesson "Kill the commie for dad and mommie" .

[zealotkommunizma]

morozov said:

Commie, if you suggest to try again then do it for your own, maybe with rabbits or rats.
I 'm gonna teach my future kids one lesson "Kill the commie for dad and mommie" .

I suggested nothing at all. I was just being objective and I invite others to beobjective.

All I did was to define communism and capitalism, terms most people do not fully understand.

As for someone like you. Well I invite you as well to be objective.
First of all, if you're in these forums I wonder if you're really a slavic patriot, if so, objectively please why is communism against your principles? If you of course think you know communism well enough.

Other thing, your kids may well develop a criteria by themselves and either follow what you teach them or not. Just be careful with them.

[White Cossack]

zealotkommunizma said:

Judaism is a religion. There are Jews of several differen ethnicities, yes, including Slavians. There a Jews in Russia, Jews in Poland, Jews in Yugoslavia, Jews in Czechslovakia and Jews nearly everywhere in Eastern Europe. And you want to know where most Jews proliferated? It was in Russia. Half if not 60% of Israel's founding population came from USSR and from the ones of USA many were descendants of Polish, Russian, Ukrainian and Czechslovak inmigrants to USA.

There are two main Jewish groups: Sefardim (Middle Eastern and Spanish) and Ashkenazim (Central and Eastern Europe). The greatest group world wide is the Ashkenazim and from those the majourity are of Polish, German and Russian descent. Making actual Jewish ethnical background hevily slavian.

I'm myself of Jewish ancestry although I don't follow the religion and I'm slavian.

Well this was some introduction to the ethnical background of nowadays Jews.

Now, being more objectie and straightforward to the point: Baseless shallow hatreds are always weak.

I have a question for all antisemites: Objectively, why do you hate Jews?

Bye bye commie. You spam the whole forum with BS like Slavs are mixed and whatnot, spread commie propaganda and then come and admit you are a zhid agitator. We are not interested about zhid History as well around here. Who cares about who founded israel or about the two different zhid groups? How is that relevant here?
Why do we "hate" zhids? For starters, cut the victimization crap. As to your "question" per see, just look yourself in the mirror, you are an alien, pretend to be a Slav, and want to tell us who we are, with all this BS about Slavs being mixed just because you are non-Slav yourself. You are the exact image of how Nationalists view zhids. You make up BS about we are all mixed, so why bother? Push around communism, spew liberal ideas and pretend to have a saying in other people business. I think you are the answer to your own question.
And no, you are not Slavic, and this is not a forum for you.

[slovjan]

wait a minute zhids who are communists are traitors of their own people and God (how many times must i repeat myself) ...communism is bad because its against God...and thats why it eventualy disapeared... DONT MIX JEWS AND COMMUNIST:::: shure there are ones who are communists to and hence traitors of true Jews...I'm not Jew as far as I know my bloodline, but still I dont hate them i have a respect and disrespect for them ( respect for beeing God's choosen people, and disrespect for betraying God and not accepting Jesus as true Massiah...thoug there are some who did accept and they have my full suport and respect...nad those are not communists...Communists I dislike probably even hate,,,,

[White Cossack]

slovjan said:

wait a minute zhids who are communists are traitors of their own people and God (how many times must i repeat myself) ...communism is bad because its against God...and thats why it eventualy disapeared... DONT MIX JEWS AND COMMUNIST:::: shure there are ones who are communists to and hence traitors of true Jews...I'm not Jew as far as I know my bloodline, but still I dont hate them i have a respect and disrespect for them ( respect for beeing God's choosen people, and disrespect for betraying God and not accepting Jesus as true Massiah...thoug there are some who did accept and they have my full suport and respect...nad those are not communists...Communists I dislike probably even hate,,,,

First of all it is not us who mix zhids with communism. It is zhids who mix themselves with communism. We just point that out.
Second of all, for GOD's SAKE, stop acting like a stupid Anglo-Saxon evangelist with all this BS about zhids being God's chosen people, because they are NOT!
Aren't you a "pagan" for crying out loud?! You have been spewing this BS about zhids for the last few days, like you have just became a nutball protestant just like that!

[slovjan]

five years...? I'm on this forum for less then a month...And no I'm not pagan thoug I almost became one... Time will reveal everything...and no I 'm no anglosaxon nor evangelist...

[White Cossack]

Five years? Don't you mean few days?