Post by russkiyvolk on May 9, 2008 23:41:58 GMT -5
Finally, we Russians have flexed our muscles for the world to see. The reason the Russian Federation did this soviet style show of force, is because the west thinks of us as a joke. I currently go to college in the USA, and people ask me what is life like in Russia. They are surprised to hear from me that my relatives there have internet, cell phones, and decent cars. Most people in the west see Russia as a bear with two broken legs, somebody even asked me if we had electricity, but I don't blame the people. If you ever watch the news in the USA, 90% of it is focused on who f***ed Paris Hilton last night, and the other 10% is focused on the world, out of that, 5% shows Russia and the other Slavic nations, in that segment, people are shown living in shacks without heating, electricity, or running water, while showing Putin as a Tyrannical Dictator, and for Americans, this is the only outlook that they have on our countries (unless they actually go looking for specific news on the internet, which might not all be in English), which just shows how brainwashed they are. Events like the May 9th victory parade have a goal of showing Russia's might, because, currently the western world perceives Russia as a country that came out of the cold war broke, and run by criminals.
To answer the question about the hammer and Sickle, it is there to honor the soldiers who fought and died for the Soviet Union, if it weren't for them, I probably wouldn't be alive today. On may 9th, we celebrate the Soviet Union's victory over Nazi Germany, and we honor the soldiers who gave their lives for their land, and this flag honors them, make no mistake, it doesn't promote communism. It promotes Memory, and maybe some nostalgia.
by António Martins and Victor Lomantsov, 29 May 2001
On 7, April, 1945 Military Council of 3rd Shock Army (lead by general Kuznetsov) decided to make 9 “victory banners”. They were made of table-clothes in Moscow and presented to 9 divisions of the Army in 20ths of April. All banners were destroyed except the banner #5. It was hoisted upon Reichstag on 30, April, 1945 21:50 by sergeants Egorov (russian) and Meliton Kantarija (georgian). Lt. Berest escorted the two inside the building, but he didn't went to the roof. As you understand nodody (and famous photographer Khaldei too) can take a photograph in that time. It was late evening.
The banner was photographed by plane in early morning ot 1, May. But on afternoon 1 of May the banner was throwed down with german projectile. Somebody (may be Egorov and Kantarija again?) hoisted the banner again in afternoon 1 of May. On 3 of May the Banner was taken off from Reichstag and in June was sent to Moscow.
The Victory Banner was not a first red banner upon Reichstag in 1945. It is a well known fact since 1960ths. It was first official flag, first flag officially adopted and inspired by army command.
Other banners was made by soldiers without official adoption. We know about 40 (!) red banners hoisted by different military units of Red Army upon Reichstag. All they were hand-made, very often plain red without inscriptions. First red flag was hoisted by G. Bulatov on 30, April, 1945 14:25 (plain red banner). It was throwed down soon because the battle was very fierce.
Victor Lomantsov, 08 May 2000
Description of the flag.
Ratio 1:2. The hammer and sickle is really larger than usual. The inscriptions and hammer and sickle are really white but a little fade (lost colour) — this is not astonishing, they were drawn with paint (and not a good paint) about 55 years ago). Victor Lomantsov, 25 Oct 2000
This flag is now at the Central Museum of the Armed Forces, Moscow. Other thing worth of mentioning is the shape of the star: it is more fatter (inscribed circle diameter if the half of the outscribed diameter). by Zeljko Heimer, 01 Aug 1996
The Victory Banner is red with big white hammer and sickle and star and inscription:
(150 strelkovaa^ ordena) 150th rifle [division], awarded with Kutuzov Order of II degree, honoured name Idritskaa^ [division], 79th joint corps, 3rd Shock Army, 1st Byelorussian Front
Last Edit: May 10, 2008 1:35:29 GMT -5 by TsarSamuil
Post by soldier7799 on May 10, 2008 7:22:25 GMT -5
These are the real soviet banners used by the armies.Each army had its own banner.The soldiers on the parade were carrying the same banners as the soldiers in the WW2. The parade was GREAT!We too have parade on 6 but it cant be compare with the russian parade.
The mayority who fell in WWII were inspired by this flag and came to see it as their battle flag. Certainly as the flag of the army they were a part of.
Symbols only have the value which you assign to them. You don`t need to see communism in it.
Dinamo Zagreb or Red Star organised supporters don`t see communism in their clubs name regardless of the historic origins of the names and would fight viciously to keep the names (and infact Dinamo fans did fight to bring it back) despite being an anti-communist bunch (today).
A military parade on Alexander Batenberg square celebrated the Day of Valour and the Day of the Bulgarian Armed Forces, marked on May 6, St George's Day.
Bulgaria's Panagyurishte Marks 133 Years since April Uprising against Ottoman Empire
The southern Bulgarian town of Panagyurishte started Friday the remembrance events marking the 133 Year since the start of the so called April Uprising against the Ottoman Empire.
Despite the rain thousands of Panagyurishte residents and guests attended the first day of the events to honor the memory of the Bulgarian heroes, who on April 20 (May 3 according to the Gregorian Calendar), 1876, started Bulgaria's largest rebellion in its fight for freedom from the empire of Ottoman Turkey.
Thousands watched the theatrical restoration of the historical events at the time of the declaration of the April Uprising in which locals in traditional costumes played out in the open the event that took place on April 20, 1876.
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