Post by TsarSamuil on Aug 28, 2018 13:41:23 GMT -5
Since SA is turning into the next Zimbabwe, criminal niggers are flooding Europe, this is a another spear against the white race..
the Blacks had their chance, with their behavior in Italy and elsewhere, showing their true faces that they can't live alongside white people and considering most Afro-Americans either are in jail or have been, I deem this whole bastard race to be unfit to be near civilization.
For 100 000 years, before arrival of white man, there was not a single building or accomplishment of note in sub-saharan africa. Not even written text.
They are simply ignorant, aggressive and a nuissance
To cement my point, consider these two non-white groups and their different approach...
Last Edit: Aug 28, 2018 13:53:40 GMT -5 by TsarSamuil
Post by TsarSamuil on Aug 28, 2018 13:44:01 GMT -5
You can't cure stupid
Liberal Activist Is Brutally Raped in Haiti by a Black Man – Blames White Men.
thegatewaypundit.com by Jim Hoft Wednesday, January 17, 2018
Liberal activist Amanda Kijera traveled to Haiti on a mission to prove that the portrayal of black men as “savages” was not accurate. Kijera was brutally raped. Of course, she blamed the white man for the violence.
Amanda Kijera was on a humanitarian trip to Haiti, when she was violently raped by a black man. The act was both coincidental and devastating, as Kijera was actually in Haiti to dispel the “myths” that violence against women on the island was overstated by women’s rights organizations. The intention of Kijera’s trip was to push back on the portrayal of black men as “savages” in the media. Her hope was that she would eliminate misconceptions and push back against common views imposed by “the man.” However, Kijera’s trip took a turn for the worse when one of the men she had worked to protect cornered her on the rooftop, and raped her numerous times.
“The experience was almost more than I could bear,” Kijera wrote about the incident, “I pleaded with him to honor my commitment to Haiti, to him as a brother in the mutual struggle for an end to our common oppression, but to no avail. He didn’t care.”
According to Kijera, she eventually stopped fighting him, claiming that there was nothing she could do to stop him from raping her repeatedly. After the tragic experience, she placed the blame on a very unexpected course. Women are not the source of their oppression; oppressive policies and the as-yet unaddressed white patriarchy which still dominates the global stage are,” she explained.
She also went on to argue that it is up to the United Nations to support people who are forced to bear the brunt of black male aggression. Kijera makes the outrageous claim that dependency on white people causes them to act out against them. She alludes that this was the reason for her attack.
Post by TsarSamuil on Aug 28, 2018 13:45:36 GMT -5
This is what happens when you trust niggers..
New South African president wants to seize land from white farmers without compensation.
RT.com 22 Feb, 2018 10:36
South Africa’s new president, Cyril Ramaphosa, has pledged to return the lands owned by white farmers since the 1600s to the black citizens of the country.
The government plans to accelerate land redistribution through expropriation without compensation.
“The expropriation of land without compensation is envisaged as one of the measures that we will use to accelerate the redistribution of land to black South Africans,” said Ramaphosa, who was sworn into office to succeed Jacob Zuma as president last week.
The millionaire ex-businessman Ramaphosa promised that land expropriation operations will not be a “smash and grab” exercise and promised to handle the matter properly, adding that people “must see this process as an opportunity.”
“No-one is saying that land must be taken away from our people,” he said, “Rather, it is how we can make sure that our people have equitable access to land and security of tenure. We must see this process of accelerated land redistribution as an opportunity and not as a threat,” he added during a speech to parliament on Tuesday.
Such a drastic move would not damage the country’s agriculture or economy, the South African president promised.
“We will handle it with responsibility. We will handle it in a way that will not damage our economy, that is not going to damage agricultural production,” he said.
More than two decades after the end of apartheid in the 1990s, the ruling African National Congress (ANC) party is under pressure to tackle racial disparities in land ownership in South Africa. The country is home to over 50 million people, with whites owning most of the land.
According to a recent study, black South Africans constitute 79 percent of the population, but directly own only 1.2 percent of the country’s rural land. Meanwhile, white South Africans, who constitute 9 percent of the country’s population, directly own 23.6 percent of its rural land, and 11.4 percent of land in towns and cities, according to the Land Audit report.
A similar program of land redistribution was carried out by then-Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Thousands of white farmers were forced from their lands.
However, food production plummeted without the experienced farmers’ contribution, and Zimbabwe’s economy suffered massively. In 2010, the Guardian reported that Mugabe used land reform to reward his allies rather than ordinary black Zimbabweans. In 2016, Mugabe signed a decree that foreign companies would face closure unless they sold or gave up 51 percent of their shares.
Speaking about the redistribution of land in his country, Ramaphosa said that “in dealing with this complex matter” South Africa would not “make the mistakes that others have made.”
‘Time for reconciliation over’: South Africa votes to confiscate white-owned land.
RT.com 28 Feb, 2018 11:47
The South African parliament voted on Tuesday in favor of a motion seeking to change the constitution to allow white-owned land expropriation without compensation.
The motion, which was brought by Julius Malema – the leader of the radical Marxist opposition party, the Economic Freedom Fighters – passed by a wide margin of 241 votes to 83 against.
Several parties – the Democratic Alliance, Freedom Front Plus, Cope and the African Christian Democratic Party – did not support the motion. The matter has been referred to the parliament’s Constitutional Review Committee, which must report back by August 30.
“The time for reconciliation is over. Now is the time for justice,” Malema told the parliament. “We must ensure that we restore the dignity of our people without compensating the criminals who stole our land.”
South Africa has a population of over 50 million people. According to a 2017 government audit, white people own 72 percent of farmland.
Last week, South Africa’s new president, Cyril Ramaphosa, pledged to return the lands owned by white farmers since the 1600s to the black citizens of the country. He added that food production and security must be preserved.
The official opposition Democratic Alliance party (DA) has criticized the motion, saying it will undermine property rights and scare off potential investors.
The DA’s Thandeka Mbabama told the parliament that expropriation without compensation was a way to divert attention from the failure by successive ANC-led (African National Congress) governments.
“It is shocking that at the current rate it will take 35 years to finalize (land) restitution claims lodged before 1998,” said Mbabama, who is deputy shadow minister for rural development and land reform.
It’s been more than two decades since the end of apartheid in the 1990s, and the ruling ANC party is still trying to tackle racial disparities in land ownership in South Africa.
The president of farmers’ group the Transvaal Agricultural Union, Louis Meintjes, warned the country risks going down the same route as Zimbabwe, which plunged into famine after a government-sanctioned purge of white farmers in the 2000s.
“Where in the world has expropriation without compensation coupled to the waste of agricultural land, resulted in foreign confidence, economic growth and increased food production?” Meintjes said, as cited by Australia’s news.com.au.
“If Mr Ramaphosa is set on creating an untenable situation, he should actively create circumstances which will promote famine. His promise to expropriate land without compensation sows the seed for revolution. Expropriation without compensation is theft.”
Post by TsarSamuil on Aug 28, 2018 13:46:56 GMT -5
The Men Preparing for Civil War in South Africa.
Lauren Southern Mar 8, 2018
Furious South Africa demands Australian minister drops plan to fast-tracking visas for white farmers so they can flee their 'horrific circumstances' for a 'civilised country'
By AFP and JULIAN ROBINSON FOR MAILONLINE 00:26 GMT, 15 March 2018
South Africa demanded on Thursday that Australian interior minister Peter Dutton retract comments that suggested white farmers were being persecuted and deserved protection with special visas from a 'civilised country'.
Pretoria hauled in Canberra's High Commissioner for a diplomatic ticking off over Dutton's remarks, which also included a description of white farmers facing 'horrific circumstances' - a characterisation South Africa has rejected.
'The South African government is offended by the statements which have been attributed to the Australian Home Affairs Minister and a full retraction is expected,' the foreign ministry said in a statement.
South African President Cyril Ramaphosa said his country was not heading down the road towards the type of violent and chaotic seizure of white-owned farms that triggered economic collapse in Zimbabwe nearly 20 years ago.
'We cannot have a situation where we allow land grabs, because that is anarchy,' Ramaphosa said. 'We cannot have a situation of anarchy when we have proper constitutional means through which we can work to give land to our people.'
South African anger was prompted after Australia considered fast-tracking visas for white farmers to allow them to flee 'horrific circumstances' for a 'civilised country'.
Addressing the issue, Australia's Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton cited reports of land seizures and violence targeting the white farmers and insisted 'people do need help'.
The offer was swiftly rebuffed by South Africa, with a government spokesman saying that no section of the country's population was in any danger.
Dutton, who oversees immigration and has drawn international criticism for heading a tough crackdown on asylum-seekers from Asia and the Middle East, said the South Africans deserve 'special attention' for acceptance on refugee or humanitarian grounds.
'If you look at the footage, you hear the stories and you read the accounts, it's a horrific circumstance that they face,' Dutton told Sydney's Daily Telegraph late on Wednesday.
'I've asked my department to look at options and ways in which we can provide some assistance because I do think on the information I've seen people do need help, and they need help from a civilised country like ours.'
But South African government spokesman Ndivhuwo Mabaya told the BBC that there was 'no need for anyone to be scared or to fear anything'.
'The land redistribution programme will be done according to the law,' he said, adding: 'We remain a united nation here in South Africa - both black and white.'
Dutton's comments come just months after asylum-seekers and refugees held by Australia in a remote Pacific camp were awarded Aus$70 million ($56 million) for being illegally detained and treated negligently in the country's largest human rights class action settlement.
Canberra, which denied liability, sends asylum-seekers who try to reach Australia by boat, rather than through official channels, to facilities on Nauru in the Pacific and Papua New Guinea's Manus Island.
Dutton said that white South African farmers work hard and 'I think these people deserve special attention and we're applying that special attention now'.
He indicated that those wanting to leave may be considered under the 'in-country persecution' visa category, or through a refugee-humanitarian program.
Normally South Africans have to apply under other categories, including as a skilled worker or through family connections. Nearly 200,000 South Africans already live in Australia.
Late last year, thousands of white farmers blocked roads in South Africa to protest against what they said was an explosion of violence against their communities in rural areas.
Campaign group AfriForum, which advocates for its largely white membership, many of whom speak Afrikaans, cited dozens of murders.
Another Australian cabinet minister, Steve Ciobo, agreed the farmers' situation was 'cause for concern'.
'Let's be frank, if we see in this case -- people who are being thrown off their land, being persecuted, I've read of people being shot, rapes, all sorts of different things -- then I do believe that there's a role to be played,' he told broadcaster ABC.
Land ownership is a sensitive subject in South Africa, 24 years after the end of apartheid rule.
White people still own around 72 percent of individually-owned farms, with the black majority holding just four percent, according to an audit cited by Ramaphosa this week.
The country's ruling ANC party has backed expropriation of land without compensation.
AfriForum deputy chief executive Alana Bailey said on the group's website that Dutton's remarks should serve as a wake-up call for the South African government.
'It must serve as a warning that South Africa runs the risk to lose even more productive, loyal citizens should their concerns about issues such as property rights not be listened to in earnest,' Bailey said.
Dutton suggested an announcement could be made soon.
'We're just looking at the moment at what might be feasible and hopefully we'll make an announcement in due course,' he said.
South Africa’s white farmers reportedly being murdered & tortured off their land.
Violent attacks against South Africa's white farmers are on the rise, according to Paul Toohey, a reporter from Australia’s Daily Telegraph, who traveled to the country.
Last month, South Africa's parliament voted to allow white-owned land expropriation without compensation. That followed South Africa’s new President Cyril Ramaphosa’s pledge to return the lands owned by white farmers since the 1600s to the black citizens of the country. He claimed the land was “taken under colonialism and apartheid.”
“This is normal in South Africa to be attacked on a farm,” a 39-year old farmer Berdus Henrico told the reporter.
Berdus and his 51-year old partner Estelle Nieuwenhuys have been raided in the Limpopo province. The farmer has three bullet wounds - two through his shoulder and one through his face that came out the back of his neck.
“They took my hunting gun, my shotgun, two cell phones, our DVD player, our TV,” said Berdus, adding that Estelle was praying, out loud, begging them to stop.
“They want money and they want guns. They want the people off the land so as they can go on like they want to. They want it here like it was in Zimbabwe a few years ago when they chased all the whites out and let it go to the ground.”
According to AfriForum, a group that was set up to draw attention to the farmers’ plight, there were a record 404 farm attacks in 2017, four times the number recorded in the country a decade ago. The 2018 figures are expected to easily top last year’s numbers.
AfriForum is trying to work with police and government to raise awareness.
“If we see a white farmer being tortured, being burned with torches or clothing irons, gang-raped, we don’t see any focus on these cruel crimes,” said Ian Cameron, head of AfriForum Community Safety.
The organization’s statistics show the number of commercial farmers in South Africa declined from more than 60,000 to 35,000 during the past two decades. More than 60 percent of farm attack victims were over 50 years old.
Cameron explained that the government views farm attacks as “normal” crime.
“The cruelty that goes with farm attacks is disproportionate compared to other crime,” he said. “An urban crime might last 10 minutes, but [on farms] people can be tortured for up to nine hours.”
There is something warlike in the country, according to Cameron. “This country is damaged. We are psychologically damaged,” he said.
South Africa has a population of over 50 million people. According to a 2017 government audit, white people own 72 percent of farmland.
The leader of South Africa’s radical Marxist opposition party (the Economic Freedom Fighters) Julius Malema said recently the mayor of Port Elizabeth should be removed because he is white.
“We are cutting the throat of whiteness,” said Malema.
South Africa’s white farmers at risk of genocide – Australian senator.
RT.com 26 Mar, 2018 10:21
People attacking South African farmers are “subhuman,” according to Australia’s Queensland Senator Fraser Anning, who has described recent events there as “the start of genocide.”
The former member of One Nation, a right-wing populist party in Australia, Anning talked to supporters of South African white farmers outside Queensland’s parliament in Brisbane on Sunday.
“This is the start of genocide as far as I’m concerned, and it’s only going to get worse because the genocide has just started,” he said. “Anyone who would boil a child in a bath, rape his mother and slaughter people the way they are slaughtering them now are subhuman.”
The senator also cast doubt on the ability of black South Africans to work the land. “These people, when they do take over the farms, as we’ve seen in Rhodesia [Zimbabwe], the farms will run into ruin," he said. “Within a few more years, they’ll be asking, demanding our support and you can be sure that the United Nations will be demanding that we support these people with foreign aid.”
Anning has backed Australian politician Peter Dutton’s proposal to grant the farmers refugee status. Criticizing migrants from other areas, Anning said South Africans were “industrious, they’re hardworking, they have the same Christian values, as opposed to some of the other people we’ve been bringing into the country”, who he claimed were “intent on tearing our country apart.”
Earlier this month, Australian Home Affairs Minister Dutton called for emergency visas for South Africa's white farmers, saying “it’s a horrific circumstance they face” and that they “deserve special attention.”
The alleged persecution of white farmers in South Africa has been highlighted by recent media reports. They began covering the events after South African authorities approved new legislation allowing the redistribution of lands owned by white farmers to black South African citizens.
South Africa's 50 million population is predominantly black, but white citizens reportedly own 72 percent of farmland. The country’s new president, Cyril Ramaphosa, pledged last month to return the lands owned by white farmers since the 1600s to the black citizens of the country without compensation for the owners.
Post by TsarSamuil on Aug 28, 2018 13:55:22 GMT -5
And you will see similar articles for western europe not to complain about the coming blood bath
WHITE PEOPLE IN SOUTH AFRICA SHOULD STOP PANICKING ABOUT LOSING THEIR LAND: OPINION
Newsweek.com BY BEN COUSINS ON 4/5/18 AT 5:00 AM
Land reform is a key issue in South Africa, due to the long history of dispossession of indigenous populations by white settlers. Progress has been painfully slow over the past 24 years, but the question of land is now suddenly at the top of the political agenda.
A major controversy erupted at the end of February following a motion adopted in parliament, tabled by the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) and modified by the ANC, which started the process of potentially amending the constitution to allow for the expropriation of (white-owned) land without compensation, and its subsequent redistribution (to black people.)
In March, the main opposition party, the Democratic Alliance, sent out phone messages stating: "ANC & EFF working together to take all private land and homes. You can only stop this if you're registered correctly to vote! Check now."
As a result, white South Africans are panicking that they will lose their land and their homes, and some white commercial farmers believe this is the beginning of Zimbabwe-style ‘land grabs.’ Australia’s minister of home affairs even offered to fast-track visas for white farmers.
In contrast, the motion was supported by many other political parties and has been greeted with approval by large numbers of black people. Given the bitter history of large-scale land dispossession, refusing to pay for stolen land is seen by many black South Africans as essential to restoring their dignity.
Parliament recently resolved to investigate whether or not the country’s constitution should be amended in order to allow for expropriation without compensation. A constitutional review committee is organising public hearings countrywide, and will report in August.
The ANC is clearly attempting to regain political ground lost to the small but vocal opposition party, the EFF. The unresolved land question, and in particular the issue of compensation, has been a key rallying cry for the EFF since it first emerged in 2013. It is sure to make land a central issue in national elections due to take place on 2019.
One effect of the controversy is that land reform is now a key topic of public debate. This presents both dangers and opportunities for South African society, which has one of the highest levels of inequality in the world, and continues to experience deep-seated tensions over race.
We have an opportunity to pay serious attention to the land question, and to convene inclusive processes to develop solutions to this intractable problem. As demonstrated once again, racialized inequalities in land holdings are a ticking time bomb in South Africa. Defusing it will require courageous leadership and imaginative policy making.
In the heat and dust generated by the current controversy, many commentators have missed an important report released by the country’s parliament in late 2017. This contains the findings of a two-year investigation of the impact of laws passed since the transition to democracy in 1994, with a particular focus on poverty and inequality, social cohesion, and land. The investigation was carried out under the leadership of former president Kgalema Motlanthe, who is widely respected.
In relation to land, the report provides a comprehensive assessment and devastating critique of post-apartheid land reform, as well as detailed recommendations for its renewal. Draft legislation is included the report, in the form of a national framework law for land reform, a land records act, and amendments to existing laws.
On expropriation, the report states that it is not necessary to amend the constitution—expropriation of property can be carried out in the public interest, which includes land reform. Compensation levels must be just and equitable, and market value is only one of several considerations in determining what this means in practice. Some land, for example portions of farms occupied and used by former labour tenants, can probably be expropriated with minimal or no compensation.
Why have these provisions not been used to date? The answer is lack of political will, given the low priority of land reform for the ANC to date. This is evident in the tiny budget allocated to it, around 0.4 percent of the national budget, and the appointment of a series of incompetent politicians as ministers.
As parliament’s report makes clear, acquiring land for restitution and redistribution is the least of the problems besetting the programme. More important are questions of which beneficiaries are targeted (the poor or emerging business people?), which land is targeted (does it have water for irrigation?) and how to provide effective post-settlement support for production and livelihood systems (in large-scale or small-scale enterprises?).
Parliament’s report also focuses on the weaknesses of land tenure reform. This is meant to secure the rights of those discriminated against in the past, such as farmworkers and residents of communal areas under chiefs. In the commotion over the property rights of the white minority, the continuing insecurity of many black people is often lost sight of.
Government’s abject failure to prevent evictions of farmworkers and dwellers has meant that many more rural people have lost access to land since 1994 than have gained it through land reform. In relation to communal areas, where systems of land rights draw on the norms and values of customary law, government has failed to promulgate protective legislation, despite the Bill of Rights requiring that it does so.
These failures have resulted in the continuing dispossession of black South Africans living in communal areas. Some have lost their land to mining companies, with little or no compensation, as chiefs often enter into crooked deals with mining companies that benefit only themselves and their cronies. The platinum belt is the locus of many of these, and it is here that the EFF has made most of its gains.
Currently, land rights in KwaZulu-Natal are under threat from the Ingonyama Trust, which is converting strong rights under custom into rent-paying leaseholds.
Other populations who suffer from tenure insecurity include those living in informal settlements on the edges of towns and cities, backyard shacks and derelict inner city buildings. Urban land, not rural land, is where land occupations occur, sometimes led by EFF activists.
This means that land reform policy must begin to focus on urban and peri-urban areas. As in rural areas, this should involve not only securing rights, but also enabling economic development. Given the fact that poor South Africans spend around 25 percent of their incomes on transport, the location of low cost housing in areas close to employment or self-employment opportunities is crucial. Supporting the growth of the informal sector is also key.
Are land grabs about to begin?
Will the ANC, together with the EFF, amend the constitution in an attempt to facilitate land grabbing on a large scale? Or will the ruling party, under a new president, Cyril Ramaphosa, begin to address the failings of its land reform programme? Time will tell. In my view, the latter is more likely.
The challenge is to do so in a manner that addresses the political challenges that arise from an unresolved ‘land question,’ but also contributes to poverty reduction.
In the meantime, white South Africans should be offering their energies (and for farmers, some of their land) to help find solutions. This will help secure their future in the country. Whereas attempts to defend their privilege could well lead to the loss of everything they own—an important lesson from Zimbabwe in the early 2000s.
Professor Ben Cousins holds a DST/NRF Research Chair in Poverty, Land and Agrarian Studies at the University of the Western Cape.
Post by TsarSamuil on Aug 28, 2018 13:57:30 GMT -5
First 50 families of farmers from South Africa may soon resettle in Russia.
RT.com 20 Jul, 2018 09:50
The first families of Boers, descendants of Dutch settlers in South Africa, could soon be moving to Russia to escape rising violence against farmers. Some 15,000 Boers want to leave South Africa and become farmers in Russia.
The Schlebusch family from South Africa’s Bloemfontein is going to be among first 50 Boer families to settle in Russia’s southwest. Like many other Boers, they are seeking political asylum in Russia. They say they are facing violent attacks and death threats at home stemming from government plans to expropriate their land.
Earlier this month, farmer Adi Schlebusch visited Russia’s farmbelt Stavropol Region. Schlebusch, whose grandfather was murdered at his farm, told RT that the land in South Africa “was never taken by whites from blacks with violence or in an unjust manner.” He explained that when Boers moved to South Africa in the 19th century, they tried to act in a way that was fair, to negotiate officially and to avoid conflict.
Everything changed after Cyril Ramaphosa’s government came in. South Africa’s new president has pledged to return the lands owned by white farmers since the 1600s to the black citizens of the country. The government said it is planning to put an end to what it calls the legacy of apartheid, where most of South Africa’s land is still in the hands of its minority white population.
Rights groups said the initiative incites violence. There were 74 farm murders and 638 attacks, primarily against white farmers, in 2016-17 in South Africa, according to data by minority rights group AfriForum.
The government doesn't dispute the figures, but officials say farmers are victims of crime like just other citizens of the country gripped by violence and that they are not targeted because they are white. They say black farmers are also facing attacks.
Schlebusch confirmed to RT that roughly 15,000 Boers are ready to leave their country and begin a new life in Russia.
“The reason I’m considering immigration is honestly because I see dark clouds hanging over our future. The reality is that we do fear for our lives. And the reality is that a white farmer is attacked every day in South Africa. My grandfather was murdered on this farm. The government is certainly responsible for creating that climate of antagonism towards white farmers.”
The farmer said he visited Russia with his family to explore the possibilities of resettling in the area. “I know the growth of agricultural production is immense in Russia. So, I think it’s the right time to buy in into agriculture in Russia. And I think there’s a lot of potential.”
Stavropol is ready to settle up to 50 Boer families, according to the region’s Deputy Commissioner for human rights Vladimir Poluboyarenko. He told RT exclusively there is already a plan for settlement of roughly 500 families with their own cattle near Stavropol. The official also said that out of the four million Boers, representing eight percent of South Africa’s population, fifteen thousand Boers want to move to Russia.
A Russian delegation is due to come to South Africa to work out a more detailed resettlement plan with the Boer community.
South Africa to change constitution to legalize taking away white farmers' land.
RT.com 1 Aug, 2018 04:40
South African President Cyril Ramaphosa has said the ruling African National Congress must initiate a parliamentary process to enshrine in the constitution a proposed amendment, paving the way for land grabs without compensation.
Ramaphosa, who vowed to return the lands owned by the white farmers since the 1600s to the country's black population after he assumed office in February this year, said on Tuesday that the ANC would introduce a constitutional amendment in parliament.
"The ANC will through the parliamentary process finalize the proposed amendment to the constitution that outlines more clearly the conditions under which expropriation of land without compensation can be effected," Ramaphosa, a prominent trade union leader and a close associate of Nelson Mandela, said in a televised address on Tuesday.
The millionaire ex-businessman argued that "it has become pertinently clear that our people want the constitution to be more explicit" about the proposal, which is viewed by the South African white minority as forceful expulsion that can incite violence against farmers.
There have been growing fears that the planned expropriation will deal a blow to commercial farming in the country and might put it on the verge of a food production crisis, like the one that struck Zimbabwe when it unleashed a similar crackdown on white farmers in 1999-2000.
Promoting his plan to boost land redistribution in March, Ramaphosa sought to assure white citizens, who constitute roughly nine percent of the total population, that the government would handle the controversial matter through "dialog, discussion, engagement, until we find good solutions that take our country forward."
"There is no reason for anyone of us to panic and start beating war drums," he said at the time, noting that nothing should prevent farming activities from continuing as normal.
However, many of the Boers, descendants of Dutch settlers in South Africa, do not take the government's promises at face value, instead seeking asylum abroad from what they say is a surge in violence and government-fueled hostility against them.
Last month, a call from Australian Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton to provide emergency visas for South Africa's white farmers, who are reportedly facing persecution at home, sparked a diplomatic scandal, with the head of the South African opposition labeling Australia "a racist country" for granting refuge to white farmers both in the Mandela era and now.
Boers have also appealed to Russia, seeking to resettle farmers who no longer feel at home in South Africa. A delegation consisting of some 30 South African farming families arrived in Russia's farm belt Stavropol Region last month, asking the local authorities to consider resettling up to 15,000 Boers.
Moving "is a matter of life and death" for them the head of the delegation told the media.
The region's Deputy Commissioner for Human Rights Vladimir Poluboyarenko told RT earlier there is a plan in place to resettle up to 50 Boer families and potentially some 500, who would arrive to Stavropol with their own cattle.
White people are murderers, S. African ruling party caucus tweets, disowns it after outcry.
RT.com 6 Aug, 2018 10:11
The official account of ANC’s parliamentary caucus was forced to delete a tweet that appeared to suggest that white people are murderers. The statement provoked an outcry and has since been disowned.
The controversial tweet published by @ancparliament account last Thursday read: “The biggest mistake we are making is to consult murderers. White people are 9% of the population, they own 79% of land. They never came and consulted us for the land. If they want us to forgive them now, then let us share the land, the mineral resources.”
The manner it was published seemed to portray the comment as the official position of the African National Congress faction in the country’s parliament. The Twitter account later said that it was not. Instead, it claimed that the statement had been a quote from a member of the public. The disclaimer did not go down well with some critics, who said it was at best an example of poor social media skills and at worst proof of the party’s anti-white bias.
The gaffe comes as the country is considering an amendment to the national constitution, which would allow the expropriation of land from owners with no compensation. Announced by President Cyril Ramaphosa last week, the legal change is likely to target the white minority, which has owned most of the country’s land since colonial times.
The ANC said that the tweets were meant to be quotes from members of the public, but this was not made clear. They presumably originate from public hearings held by the ANC to debate the proposed amendment.
Post by TsarSamuil on Aug 28, 2018 14:01:18 GMT -5
‘Panicking’ white farmers putting land up for sale in South Africa – report.
RT.com 20 Aug, 2018 10:41
South Africa’s white farmers have been desperately trying to sell their lands at record pace ahead of planned government land seizures, according to a local farmer’s union. However, there are no buyers.
Omri van Zyl, head of the Agri SA union, which represents mainly white farmers, said: “The mood among our members is very solemn. They are confused about the lack of any apparent strategy from the government and many are panicking. So many farms are up for sale, more than we’ve ever had, but no one is buying.”
Investors in South Africa are worried that the economy would contract the way it did in Zimbabwe under President Robert Mugabe, who also seized land from whites. The country’s economy hasn’t recovered since then, with inflation reaching 89.7 sextillion percent during the peak of the crisis, according to some estimates.
“Markets are sensitive to anything perceived to be ‘Zimbabwe-fication’ on the land-reform front,” Henrik Gullberg, executive director of emerging-market strategy at Nomura, told Bloomberg.
Last week, South Africa’s governing party ANC chairman Gwede Mantashe fueled the farmers’ panic by announcing upcoming seizures. “You shouldn’t own more than 12,000 hectares of land and therefore if you own more, it should be taken without compensation,” Mantashe told News24. Minority rights group AfriForum has warned the move would be “catastrophic.”
The South African government says it wants to settle the land issue, a major point of contention in the predominantly black country, where 72 percent of private land is owned by the minority white population. It wants to redistribute the land to the black population of the country after taking it away from several thousand white commercial farmers.
Land seizures begin in South Africa after owners refuse govt lowball buyout offer - report.
RT.com 20 Aug, 2018 15:29
South African authorities have reportedly started seizing white-owned land after negotiations on buying out the properties stalled. The first seizures are targeting game farms in the Northern province of Limpopo.
The government had tried to buy the lands owned by Akkerland Boerdery Ventures for one-tenth of the land’s value, reports City Press, a Johannesburg-based news outlet. The company, which has been running a 3200 hectare (32 square kilometers) game farm, reportedly asked for 200 million rand (nearly $14 million) for the land while the government was ready to offer them just 20 million rand.
“Notice is hereby given that a terrain inspection will be held on the farms on April 5, 2018 at 10 a.m. in order to conduct an audit of the assets and a handover of the farm’s keys to the state,” reads the letter received by Akkerland Boerdery earlier this year.
The land owners immediately tried to get an injunction to prevent expropriation until a court had ruled on the issue. However, the Department of Rural Development and Land Affairs reportedly refused the application.
“What makes the Akkerland case unique is that they apparently were not given the opportunity to first dispute the claim in court, as the law requires,” spokeswoman for the agricultural industry association AgriSA told the media.
So far, the ruling African National Congress (ANC) hasn’t revealed details of the farms being targeted and has attempted to calm investor fears. The proposed seizures were “tied to addressing the injustices of the past,” according to the ANC.
“Over time I think the markets as well as investors will appreciate that what we are doing is creating policy certainty and creating the conditions for future investment,” the ANC spokesman said as quoted by the media.
South Africa is currently undergoing controversial land reform, proposed by the ANC led by the President Cyril Ramaphosa. The measure that involves taking land away from white farmers and distributing it to black citizens of the country, has sparked an international outrage with experts expecting the investment climate as well as the agricultural industry to suffer.
“You shouldn’t own more than 25,000 acres of land. Therefore if you own more, it should be taken without compensation,” ANC chairman Gwede Mantashe said last week, sparking a panic among the farming community.
South Africa’s land expropriation could trigger default, warns agricultural bank.
RT.com 22 Aug, 2018 06:49
Seizing privately-owned land without compensation could be costly for the South African economy. The government would be forced to bail out banks as farmers stop investing and paying off debts, warns state-owned Land Bank.
The government's new decree on land reform could trigger defaults that would cost the economy 41 billion rand ($2.8 billion) if the bank’s rights as a creditor are not protected, according to the lender. Land Bank is an agricultural bank guided by a government mandate to provide financial services to the commercial farming sector and agri-business.
South African President Cyril Ramaphosa announced this month that his government is enforcing a change in the constitution to allow the expropriation of land without compensation. According to the ruling Africa National Congress party (ANC), the white minority in the country still own most of the land more than two decades after the end of apartheid.
The ANC wants to redistribute the land confiscated from white farmers to the black citizens of the country. Land Bank chairman Arthur Moloto said expropriation without compensation would immediately cost the bank 9 billion rand (about $620 million).
“A cross default clause would be triggered should we fail to pay when these debts fall due because of inadequate liquidity or lack of alternative sources of funding,” Moloto said.
“This would make our entire 41 billion rand funding portfolio due and payable immediately, which we would not be able to settle. Consequently, government intervention would be required to settle our lenders,” he added.
A badly-run land reform program would hurt his bank’s capital, Moloto said. “A poorly executed expropriation without compensation could result in the main sources of funding drying up as investors might not be willing to continue funding Land Bank in particular, or agriculture in general.”
Since the end of apartheid in 1994, the ANC has followed a “willing-seller, willing-buyer” model. Under the plan, the government buys land from white landowners and redistributes it among black citizens of the country. However, the land reform program has not brought the results the ANC wants.
South Africa begins seizing land from white farmers.
Fox News Aug 22, 2018
'Tucker Carlson Tonight' exclusive: South African president Cyril Ramaphosa has just begun the process of seizing land from his own citizens, without compensation, purely due to their skin color. That's far more racist than anything Donald Trump has ever done, of course, but elites in America barely even care. #Tucker
Trump orders Pompeo to ‘closely study’ South Africa’s land expropriation.
RT.com 23 Aug, 2018 02:52
US President Donald Trump has expressed concern over the fate of white farmers in South Africa, where the extremely controversial land redistribution reform might leave owners without their properties or any compensation.
“I have asked Secretary of State @secpompeo to closely study the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers. 'South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers,'” Trump tweeted.
The South African government this week has reportedly moved to seize two farms from owners who refused to accept the government-set compensation, triggering panic among landlords and investors.
Local media reported the properties in the northern province of Limpopo became the first to be seized as the government pushes to amend the constitution to allow for the expropriation of land without compensation. While the government valued the land at 200 million rand ($18.7 million), Akkerland Boerdery, the hunting company that operates the farms, said they are being offered just 20 million rand ($1.87 million), which they have refused to accept.
This week’s seizures reportedly mark the first instance in which the government is expropriating land “in the public interest” without compensating owners with its full market price.
South African state-owned Land Bank has warned of the massive economic burden for the economy, that may even trigger a default, if the farming sector and agri-business loses confidence and stops investing and paying off debts. If reforms to the constitution are introduced and the bank’s rights as a creditor are not protected, it may cost the economy 41 billion rand ($2.8 billion) in a bailout, the institution said.
The recently elected president, Cyril Ramaphosa, who repeatedly pledged to act more aggressively in redistributing white-owned land to the long-oppressed black population, disregarding a “willing seller, willing buyer” policy that was adopted after apartheid ended in 1994. Statistics show that white owners still control some 72 percent of farmland in South Africa, despite constituting only 9 percent of the population.
While Trump bemoaned the “large scale killing of farmers,” homicide rates in South Africa are at 20-year low, with 47 farmers killed in 2017-18, according to a recent research by one of the country’s biggest farmers’ organizations AgriSA. A peak in attacks was registered in 2001-2002, when 140 murders took place. Murder statistics, however, diverge, with civil rights group AfriForum saying 84 were killed in 2017 alone.
Rand sinks after Trump questions land confiscation from white farmers in South Africa.
RT.com 23 Aug, 2018 12:05
The South African rand slumped almost two percent on Thursday, following US President Donald Trump’s tweet about the country's land reforms. Trump's comment raised fears about the possibility of US economic sanctions.
The currency fell to 14.43 per dollar after the Trump's tweet before recovering to 14.22 per dollar during afternoon trading in Johannesburg.
Trump tweeted late on Wednesday that he would ask Secretary of State Mike Pompeo “to closely study the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations.”
The South African government hit back, tweeting that it “totally rejects this narrow perception, which only seeks to divide our nation.”
State broadcaster SABC said President Cyril Ramaphosa would seek clarification from the US embassy. Ramaphosa said on August 1 that the ruling African National Congress (ANC) was forging ahead with plans to change the constitution in order to allow the expropriation of land without compensation.
There has been a reported rise in violent attacks against farmers in South Africa. There were 74 farm murders and 638 attacks, primarily against white farmers, in 2016-17, according to data by minority rights group AfriForum.
South Africa’s white farmers have been desperately trying to sell their lands at record pace ahead of planned government land seizures, according to a local farmer’s union. However, because of government plans to confiscate the land, there are no buyers.
The South African officials have reportedly seized two farms this week from owners who refused to accept the government-set compensation.
State Dept warns South Africa of ‘wrong path’ amid land expropriation row.
RT.com 23 Aug, 2018 20:47
Expropriation of land without compensation “would not be a good thing” and would send South Africa “down the wrong path,” State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert told reporters amid a diplomatic row with Pretoria.
Nauert’s comments on Thursday come after South African authorities summoned US charge d'affaires in Pretoria Jessye Lapenn to explain a tweet by President Donald Trump that criticized land expropriation and “large scale killing of farmers,” multiple reports said.
The website of the US embassy in South Africa was unavailable as of 9:30 pm local time, showing only the notification it was “experiencing technical difficulties.”
On Wednesday night, Trump tweeted he would be directing Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and the State Department to “closely study” the developments in South Africa, citing a segment that aired on Fox News.
“South Africa totally rejects this narrow perception which only seeks to divide our nation and reminds us of our colonial past,” the country’s government tweeted back at Trump.
President Cyril Ramaphosa's spokeswoman said that Trump was “misinformed” on the matter. Foreign Affairs Minister Lindiwe Sisulu said that Trump’s tweet was “based on false information” and that her department will “seek clarification” from US diplomats later in the day.
Carlson interviewed policy analyst Marian Tupy in a segment that aired on Wednesday, sounding the alarm on Ramaphosa’s policy of seizing the land from white farmers without compensation in the name of correcting “apartheid injustice.”
The ruling African National Congress (ANC) party has proposed a constitutional amendment that would allow it to seize and redistribute land without any compensation. It has not yet been adopted, despite conflicting reports to the contrary.
However, local media reported this week that two farms in the northern province of Limpopo have already been seized, after their owner refused to sell at prices offered by the government. Akkerland Boerdery, the company that operates the farms, said it was offered just 20 million rand ($1.87 million) for land valued at ten times that price.
Much of the farmland in South Africa is owned by the country’s white minority, also known as Afrikaners, descended from Dutch settlers. The former British colony instituted a policy of strict racial segregation, dubbed apartheid, in 1948. It was formally abolished in 1994.
Some 8 million hectares - almost 20 million acres - of land have been redistributed since then. However, according to the Economist, about 70 percent of that land is no longer being cultivated.
The ANC government denies there is a widespread or systematic campaign to kill or expel white farmers, but maintains that major redistribution is needed to correct the legacy of colonialism. A number of Afrikaners have already emigrated, with as many as 15,000 recently expressing interest to settle in southern Russia.
South Africa’s currency, the rand, suffered a 2-point drop in trading against the dollar on Thursday, following Trump’s comments on Twitter.
‘This is no land grab’: South African president defends property seizure plans.
RT.com 27 Aug, 2018 12:44
South African President Cyril Ramaphosa has defended land reform plans that include property expropriation days after the US President Donald Trump questioned the policy.
“This is no land grab. Nor is it an assault on the private ownership of property,” Ramaphosa wrote in his column for the Financial Times. “The proposals will not erode property rights, but will instead ensure that the rights of all South Africans, and not just those who currently own land, are strengthened.”
The ruling African National Congress (ANC) party has proposed a constitutional amendment allowing the government to seize and redistribute land without any compensation to its owners. The draft, which has not been adopted so far, evoked widespread international outrage and multiple media reports of alleged violence against South African white farmers, including murders.
“The proposal on expropriation without compensation is one element of a broader program of land reform that seeks to ensure that all citizens can have their land rights recognized, whether they live in communal areas, informal settlements or on commercial farms,” the South African President stressed.
In his op-ed, Ramaphosa cites statistics based on a Land Audit by the Department of Rural Development and Land Reform. They state that 90 percent of land in South Africa belongs to individuals, companies and trusts, while the state owns the remaining 10 percent.
“Of this 90 percent, individuals own 39 percent, trusts 31 percent, companies 25 percent, and community-based organizations four percent, with co-ownership at one percent,” the president highlights.
“In terms of farms and agricultural holdings 97 percent of the total agricultural holdings are owned by 7 percent of landowners.”
The figures, cited by Ramaphosa, show that “72 percent of farms and agricultural holdings are owned by whites, 15 percent by colored citizens, five percent by Indians, and four percent by Africans.”
Last week, Trump tweeted that he would ask Secretary of State Mike Pompeo “to closely study the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers.” The South African government immediately responded, slamming Trump for a “narrow perception” which is “seeking to divide” the nation.
The tweet came shortly after reports of the first private property seizures in the country’s Northern province of Limpopo after the government’s failed attempt to buy out the lands. South African authorities had reportedly tried to buy the property owned by Akkerland Boerdery Ventures for just 20 million rand ($1.4 million). The owners declined the government offer, saying the land was worth 200 million rand ($14 million).
Trump’s tweet was followed by broader commentary from the US State Department. Spokeswoman Heather Nauert said land reform “would not be a good thing” and that it would send South Africa “down the wrong path.”
Later South African Foreign Affairs Minister Lindiwe Sisulu said that Trump’s tweet was “based on false information” and that her department would “seek clarification” from US diplomats.
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Post by TsarSamuil on Aug 28, 2018 15:18:50 GMT -5
Britain supports 'legal' land reform in SA, says Theresa May.
28 August 2018 - 11:56 BY REUTERS AND AFP
Britain supports South Africa’s land reform programme provided it is carried out legally, Prime Minister Theresa May said in Cape Town on Tuesday, adding that she would discuss the issue with President Cyril Ramaphosa.
“The UK has for some time now supported land reform. Land reform that is legal, that is transparent, that is generated through a democratic process,” May said. “It’s an issue that I raised and discussed with President Ramaphosa when he was in London earlier this year. I’ll be talking about it with him later today.”
May has also pledged to prioritise investment in Africa as she started a three-nation visit to the continent to drum up new trade deals ahead of leaving the European Union.
Her tour of South Africa, Nigeria and Kenya — May’s first to Africa since becoming premier in 2016 — is seen as an effort to reinforce Britain’s global ambitions after Brexit.
“By 2022, I want the UK to be the G7’s number one investor in Africa, with Britain’s private sector companies taking the lead,” May told business leaders.
The G7 groups major industrialised nations but does not include China, which has become a big investor on the African continent.
“As prime minister of a trading nation whose success depends on global markets, I want to see strong African economies that British companies can do business with,” she said.
I want to create a new partnership between the UK and our friends in Africa built around shared prosperity and shared security.”
May is facing pressure at home from so-called Remainers sceptical of her ability to forge trade deals once Britain severs ties with the EU, as well as from Brexiteers fearful she will not deliver a complete break.
“As we prepare to leave the European Union, now is the time for the UK to deepen and strengthen its global partnerships,” she said in a statement as she arrived in South Africa.
Former foreign minister Boris Johnson, whose July departure from the cabinet brought May’s government to the brink, said in his resignation speech that May’s current Brexit policy would hamper London’s ability to strike independent trade deals. But May said Britain was well placed and had many companies ready to invest in Africa.
She announced a new four-billion-pound investment programme. There were no immediate details about the initiative. May added that Britain would also host an African investment summit next year, and would open new diplomatic missions across the continent.
May will later Tuesday present Ramaphosa with the bell from the troopship Mendi, which sank in the Channel in 1917 drowning more than 600 mainly South African troops who were set to join the Allied forces fighting in World War I. It was the worst maritime disaster in South Africa’s history, and has become a symbol of its Great War sacrifice. The bell was given to a BBC reporter in 2017 following an anonymous tip, according to the broadcaster.
The prime minister is also expected to visit Robben Island where former president Nelson Mandela was imprisoned for decades to commemorate the 100th anniversary of his birth. May will head to Nigeria on Wednesday for meetings with President Muhammadu Buhari in the capital Abuja and with victims of modern slavery in Lagos.
On Thursday she will meet Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta, shortly after his return from seeing US President Donald Trump in Washington and before he travels to China to meet President Xi Jinping. The prime minister will also see British troops in training action and tour a business school, before concluding the trip at a state dinner hosted by Kenyatta.
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Post by TsarSamuil on Aug 31, 2018 14:07:46 GMT -5
‘We will take the land by force’: South Africa’s land crisis may explode into racial violence.
RT.com 30 Aug, 2018 11:48
The controversial land-confiscation policy proposed by the Ramaphosa-led ANC government could ignite clashes among South African citizens, who are split into two rival camps on the issue along racial lines.
The new legislation allowing land seizure without compensation, which was proposed by the ruling African National Congress (ANC) as early as 2015 and supported by President Cyril Ramaphosa, is currently on hold pending further review.
The law, if passed, will allow South African authorities to seize lands from white farmers and redistribute them to the country's black population without any compensation for the owners
The proposed land reform has pitted radical groups among black South Africans ready to take land by force against white farmers who are ready to protect their property.
“We will take the land by force,” Peter Seolela, a member of the Economic Freedom Fighters party, told London-based television channel ITV. “We will not be embarrassed by this. It is our land and we want it now.”
The disputed land reform is an attempt by the South African government to address what they see as continuing injustice in the country, more than two decades after the end of apartheid. The policy of strict racial segregation, by which the country’s white minority held power, was abolished in 1994.
Much of the farmland in South Africa is still owned by the country’s white minority. President Cyril Ramaphosa pledged to answer the frustrations of the landless black majority, vowing to alter the South African constitution, inevitably sparking fears among the country’s white population.
“This land is bought and paid for. I have the title deeds that go back four generations,” said Bernadette Hall, whose husband was reportedly murdered by armed raiders six years ago.
“I lost my husband and now they want to take my farm,” Hall told the media. “I’ve put my blood and my sweat and everything into this. They might as well slit my throat and have done with it.”
Earlier this week, the ANC said the land reform bill had been withdrawn by the Portfolio Committee on Public Works pending further study, but reiterated its commitment to pursue the controversial program.
Post by TsarSamuil on Aug 31, 2018 14:09:06 GMT -5
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IMF backs South Africa’s plan to confiscate land from white farmers.
RT.com 31 Aug, 2018 14:34
The International Monetary Fund (IMF) approves of South Africa’s controversial land reform as long as the highly contentious process is “rules-based” and transparent, according to the fund’s representative in the country.
Montfort Mlachila, the IMF’s senior resident representative in South Africa, said that the regulation must not damage agricultural output and put at risk food supplies for the country’s citizens.
“We are in full support of the need to undertake land reforms in order to address the issues of inequality,” Mlachila said in an interview with Reuters.
“There is need to have a transparent, rules-based, and constitutional process that leads to desirable outcomes. It is particularly important not to undermine agricultural production and food security.”
The widely debated land reform was proposed by the country’s ruling African National Congress (ANC) in 2015, and received full support of the newly elected President Cyril Ramaphosa. The proposed measure will allow the South African government to expropriate land belonging to the country’s white farmers without compensation.
A major part of South African farmlands is still owned by the country’s white minority. The current president vowed to change the South African constitution to grant some of the land to the landless black majority.
The draft reform, which reportedly provoked violent attacks and even murders of white farmers, triggered a great uproar internationally. Last week, US President Donald Trump ordered Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to closely study the issue. Earlier this year, the Australian government started issuing emergency visas for farmers facing violence in South Africa.
Last week, the ANC announced the withdrawal of the disputed draft by the Portfolio Committee on Public Works for further study. According to the committee’s chairperson, Humphrey Mmemezi, the bill was referred to parliament on procedural grounds, but they couldn’t duplicate a separate parliamentary process. Afterwards, the ANC announced their commitment to push the land reform through.
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